09-28-2014, 11:42 PM
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I have a bad feeling it will sink into political mudslinging, but when I get some spare time I will offer a few cents of discussion.
09-29-2014, 01:55 PM
Location: San Jose, CA
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As long as it doesn't affect my property value I could care less about it. I won't complain.
If they need to widen the ROW to 100' they may take some properties on the west side of the tracks. You can find the the width of the ROW on these pages:
http://www.calhsr.com/wp-content/upl...TCCM-200-B.pdf
http://www.calhsr.com/wp-content/upl...TCCM-200-B.pdf
In most parts it is around 85' so they may want another 15, but likely do with just 85', but where it is 60' it seems like they will want to widen it. The rough edges are all on the west side, so they will likely want to widen it there to smooth it out. So probably means your property will be taken using eminent domain. Mostly parking lots behind the Chili's and the offices before the Caltrain, and the empty properties just to the north, like the old dealerships. Also maybe the farm, and Stone Pine Ln reduced by up to 20'. Who knows exactly.
The idea of taking out the Palo Alto, or part of the Stanford Park Hotel are complete BS since it is over 100' there, but other areas are thinner, so who knows, they (the state) might take your property remove part of the side yard, and sell it off at auction at the loss due to no side yard.
10-01-2014, 11:28 AM
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If they need to widen the ROW to 100' they may take some properties on the west side of the tracks. You can find the the width of the ROW on these pages:
http://www.calhsr.com/wp-content/upl...TCCM-200-B.pdf
http://www.calhsr.com/wp-content/upl...TCCM-200-B.pdf
In most parts it is around 85' so they may want another 15, but likely do with just 85', but where it is 60' it seems like they will want to widen it. The rough edges are all on the west side, so they will likely want to widen it there to smooth it out. So probably means your property will be taken using eminent domain. Mostly parking lots behind the Chili's and the offices before the Caltrain, and the empty properties just to the north, like the old dealerships. Also maybe the farm, and Stone Pine Ln reduced by up to 20'. Who knows exactly.
The idea of taking out the Palo Alto, or part of the Stanford Park Hotel are complete BS since it is over 100' there, but other areas are thinner, so who knows, they (the state) might take your property remove part of the side yard, and sell it off at auction at the loss due to no side yard.
Why not take the East side? Except for a brief run through Atherton generally the poorly people live East.
10-01-2014, 12:25 PM
Location: San Jose, CA
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Why not take the East side? Except for a brief run through Atherton generally the poorly people live East.
The most obvious reason is to line up with the ROW in Palo Alto. Then it has to do with it being flat on the east side, but jagged on the west side. Lastly it is mostly parking lots and parts of streets on the west side, vs residences on the east side. So as much as you think poor people may live just east of Caltrain in Menlo Park, it is kind of useless to take land on that side, and the cost will be higher. They are not going to take a bunch of land to the east side along the entire length on all cities, when they can just take few parcels on the west side in some cities. In Palo Alto it would require making Alma St. thinner BTW.
10-01-2014, 01:50 PM
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The most obvious reason is to line up with the ROW in Palo Alto. Then it has to do with it being flat on the east side, but jagged on the west side. Lastly it is mostly parking lots and parts of streets on the west side, vs residences on the east side. So as much as you think poor people may live just east of Caltrain in Menlo Park, it is kind of useless to take land on that side, and the cost will be higher. They are not going to take a bunch of land to the east side along the entire length on all cities, when they can just take few parcels on the west side in some cities. In Palo Alto it would require making Alma St. thinner BTW.
I guess it's cheaper to buy the 1.5 million places like mine than to flatten the land? ok.
10-01-2014, 02:06 PM
Location: San Jose, CA
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I guess it's cheaper to buy the 1.5 million places like mine than to flatten the land? ok.
I mean the border of the ROW on the west side is jagged, they will want a straight line, so they will acquire land to do so. on the east side it is already a straight line, so they would have to acquire ALL the lots on that side to widen the ROW, and it will still be an inconsistent width. Palo Alto ROW is already wide enough and I'm sure the state will balk at paying Palo Alto land prices to widen it to the east. There really is no reason to widen it to the east in Menlo Park when it is way cheaper to widen it to the west, and there is no need to widen in in Palo Alto that way.
10-01-2014, 02:54 PM
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I mean the border of the ROW on the west side is jagged, they will want a straight line, so they will acquire land to do so. on the east side it is already a straight line, so they would have to acquire ALL the lots on that side to widen the ROW, and it will still be an inconsistent width. Palo Alto ROW is already wide enough and I'm sure the state will balk at paying Palo Alto land prices to widen it to the east. There really is no reason to widen it to the east in Menlo Park when it is way cheaper to widen it to the west, and there is no need to widen in in Palo Alto that way.
I could care less how many low income former middle class neighborhoods or yuppie shopping centers they ruin as long as I'm unaffected.
10-01-2014, 03:58 PM
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I could care less how many low income former middle class neighborhoods or yuppie shopping centers they ruin as long as I'm unaffected.
You're kind of a jerk. This is going to happen at some point or another so you better learn to deal with it.
10-01-2014, 04:20 PM
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Personally I think the rail has too many stations. There should be only 6 stations: SF, SJ, Sacramento, Fresno, LA, and SD.
10-01-2014, 09:49 PM
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Personally I think the rail has too many stations. There should be only 6 stations: SF, SJ, Sacramento, Fresno, LA, and SD.
I agree! Far too many stations. Well, it does need an Oakland stop because that is a major deep water port. Long Beach for the same reason. But it doesn't need 5 stops between San Diego and Los Angeles like it does now, and there should not be any stops between SF and SJ.
Really SF doesn't need a stop because of Caltrain, but like I said, politically they have to put one there.
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People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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