San Francisco Media suggests the South Bay should solve its housing crisis (San Jose: mortgage, how much)

[cardinal2007]

The SF media in somewhat tongue in cheek suggest that San Jose which already builds the most housing of any city in the Bay Area by a wide margin and surrounding community (The 408) should be the one to build housing to accommodate the job expansion in SF.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancis...nt?oid=2917759

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Sunnyvale, Milpitas, Palo Alto, Santa Clara and all these tedious South Bay hamlets debase themselves to offer tech titans expansion upon expansion to corporate campuses without any new housing. One UC Davis study suggested those cities have a combined below-market-rate housing deficit of 20,000 units. Mayor Ed Lee, I found locations for the 30,000 units you want to build. They're in the 408.

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Basically sue Mountain View and force San Jose to build housing for SF? This is tongue and cheek, but at the same time really insulting, SF doesn't build any housing, keeps creating jobs, (or taking them, in case of Pinterest) and making rents go up in the area and nearby, and now they are demanding that the South Bay fix the problems they made.
Also, why blame MV, and then say that the rest of the South Bay (408) should build the housing for SF?

SJ will not, and should not stop building to spite them, but it makes it clear how they view their own housing issues, blame everyone else.

[bobby_guz_man]

Originally Posted by cardinal2007

The SF media in somewhat tongue in cheek suggest that San Jose which already builds the most housing of any city in the Bay Area by a wide margin and surrounding community (The 408) should be the one to build housing to accommodate the job expansion in SF.

Stop being bullied: Let



Basically sue Mountain View and force San Jose to build housing for SF? This is tongue and cheek, but at the same time really insulting, SF doesn't build any housing, keeps creating jobs, (or taking them, in case of Pinterest) and making rents go up in the area and nearby, and now they are demanding that the South Bay fix the problems they made.
Also, why blame MV, and then say that the rest of the South Bay (408) should build the housing for SF?

SJ will not, and should not stop building to spite them, but it makes it clear how they view their own housing issues, blame everyone else.

Ehh I don't see him mentioning San Jose in there. And technically, what he says is right regarding lack of housing in the rest of 408 besides San Jose. Although, I think the author intends it to be a piece to poke at Ed Lee and the housing situation in San Francisco as a whole

[cardinal2007]

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

Ehh I don't see him mentioning San Jose in there. And technically, what he says is right regarding lack of housing in the rest of 408 besides San Jose. Although, I think the author intends it to be a piece to poke at Ed Lee and the housing situation in San Francisco as a whole

To me it sounded like he wants 408 to build all the housing the Ed Lee wants to build, because he doesn't want more housing in SF. Just to blame Silicon Valley, particularly Mountain View and 408 area.

408 is mostly San Jose, it has maybe 1.7M people with 1M of those in San Jose, I think it is obvious what the author thinks should be done, and of those cities San Jose is the only seriously building housing.

Silicon Valley has its own housing issues, not as bad as SF, but still, I think this shows how much SF would rather blame others than solve its own issues, admittedly while making light of the situation, and putting a few jabs at how the South Bay is "tedious", also admittedly the piece is somewhat about hating on "techies", as the people in SF like to talk about people that work in tech.

[teoreticar]

I think SJ Should just keep building since we have terrible housing crisis here in south bay.
Hundreds of buyers per property. Crazy. I think bay area just exploded since many buyers chasing "last chance" to purchase something before mortgage rates go sky high.
Only stupid people wait any longer when everyone knows that FED will increase rates soon.

[jbunniii]

The South Bay is already developed pretty much wall to wall. Let Marin pick up some of the slack.

[jbunniii]

Originally Posted by teoreticar

I think SJ Should just keep building since we have terrible housing crisis here in south bay.
Hundreds of buyers per property. Crazy. I think bay area just exploded since many buyers chasing "last chance" to purchase something before mortgage rates go sky high.
Only stupid people wait any longer when everyone knows that FED will increase rates soon.

Higher mortgage rates = lower house prices, all else being equal. Part of the reason house prices are triple what they were in the '90s is because interest rates have been so low for the past 15 years.

[darkeconomist]

It should be noted that:

San Jose has 53% of the population of Santa Clara County and a similar % of the county's buildable area. And in terms of density, San Jose has a low density in absolute terms but is mid-pack relative to other SCC cities (and, to be fair to SJ, it is so big that some ZIPs are higher density and others very low density).

So, all this beating on other cities in SCC for not offering enough housing isn't entirely fair. Where it gets skewed unfairly is, as the article points out, the skewed jobs-residents ratios of SJ's neighbors.

But that, plus the above, suggests that, if anything, SJ is trailing in jobs, not leading in housing. That is an entirely different narrative.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by cardinal2007

The SF media in somewhat tongue in cheek suggest that San Jose which already builds the most housing of any city in the Bay Area by a wide margin and surrounding community (The 408) should be the one to build housing to accommodate the job expansion in SF.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancis...nt?oid=2917759



Basically sue Mountain View and force San Jose to build housing for SF? This is tongue and cheek, but at the same time really insulting, SF doesn't build any housing, keeps creating jobs, (or taking them, in case of Pinterest) and making rents go up in the area and nearby, and now they are demanding that the South Bay fix the problems they made.
Also, why blame MV, and then say that the rest of the South Bay (408) should build the housing for SF?

SJ will not, and should not stop building to spite them, but it makes it clear how they view their own housing issues, blame everyone else.

I'm not sure why you feel insulted. The housing-jobs imbalance has been a serious issue in the South Bay for what, at least 30 years? Ask anyone stalled in traffic on south bound 680 or Altamont Pass about it.

[bobby_guz_man]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

I'm not sure why you feel insulted. The housing-jobs imbalance has been a serious issue in the South Bay for what, at least 30 years? Ask anyone stalled in traffic on south bound 680 or Altamont Pass about it.

He's insulted because, like all San Joseans, he's sick of our city being asked to house everyone and their Moms.

[bobby_guz_man]

Originally Posted by darkeconomist

It should be noted that:

San Jose has 53% of the population of Santa Clara County and a similar % of the county's buildable area. And in terms of density, San Jose has a low density in absolute terms but is mid-pack relative to other SCC cities (and, to be fair to SJ, it is so big that some ZIPs are higher density and others very low density).

So, all this beating on other cities in SCC for not offering enough housing isn't entirely fair. Where it gets skewed unfairly is, as the article points out, the skewed jobs-residents ratios of SJ's neighbors.

But that, plus the above, suggests that, if anything, SJ is trailing in jobs, not leading in housing. That is an entirely different narrative.

So you're suggesting San Jose builds even more housing to skew its ratio even worse? What would be your suggestions?