Santa Clara vs Mountain View vs Sunnyvale (buy, school district)

[bluebeard]

Originally Posted by Cali-girl

Answer: Wrong, DH's grandmother was born in Sunnyvale at the turn of the last century and was raised in the SV long before you ever showed up on the scene.

~Cali-girl

I like how I get attacked for being out of date, then the next post for my youth and inexperience. My point is that I am a person that grew up in the area. I think you, and the media, make a bigger deal out of issues like this than needed, or are relevant to the happiness and future success of school children. This attitude exacerbates the problem. It doesn't create understanding, it throws blame and creates divisions.
In my experiences, the kids follow the adults' attitudes. Kids only create divisions that were initiated by understandings of the social world which surrounds them.

[Cali-girl]

Originally Posted by bluebeard

.... My point is that I am a person that grew up in the area. I think you, and the media, make a bigger deal out of issues like this than needed, or are relevant to the happiness and future success of school children.

Hi!

If you have a problem with the content of the article I linked, then the best thing would to comment on wsj.com's real estate blogsite or to write to the Wall Street Journal with your concerns.

Please take note that the article's author, Suein Hwang, is Asian.

White Flight in Silicon Valley As Asian Students Move In - WSJ.com

Please note that my mom was a Master Teacher with a Life Credential with the State of California, so its not like I'm any sort of a stranger to education in California.

If I am attacked, particularly regarding my children, sweetheart, please understand that I or any other mother will defend our children and you will get a response, perhaps a response that is a lot more than you bargained for.

If you read my post, I mentioned my children's situation in Irvine, simply because Irvine has similar demographics to Cupertino and the challenges facing both cities/areas are similar. That was the reason I mentioned this, not to be attacked and dragged into some flame war with you or anyone else.

If you "grew up in the area" then just put a year on your comments since what you experienced in the past may not be applicable to present.

In the future, just give your .02 cents without slamming another poster.

Respectfully stated,

~Cali-girl

[bluebeard]

Originally Posted by Cali-girl

If I am attacked, particularly regarding my children, sweetheart, please understand that I or any other mother will defend our children and you will get a response, perhaps a response that is a lot more than you bargained for.

I'm sorry if I came off harsh. I tried to lessen that with the first statement saying I'm sorry that happened to them.
However, telling someone to ignore your post is not about attacking your children. Everybody in this world has difficulties, and a mother can see her child's as the most difficult and pressing.
However, this can sometimes cause as much harm as good.
The OP was about comparing 3 different cities, not comparing Asian and non-Asian areas.

[Cali-girl]

Originally Posted by bluebeard

Everybody in this world has difficulties, and a mother can see her child's as the most difficult and pressing.
However, this can sometimes cause as much harm as good.
The OP was about comparing 3 different cities, not comparing Asian and non-Asian areas.

Thank you for your apology.

I really think there needs to be some sort of class or seminar to teach people on how to communicate to others over the 'net. I don't think most people realize how they are coming across to others using a one-dimensional medium.

Do you see your quote I referenced above? Whether you realize it or not, you're making more armchair observations that are completely inappropriate to the topic of this Thread.

As I've stated already, I have already sought psychotherapy for my son and we had a group session together with the Doctor (who was Indian, btw).
Thus, it is inappropriate for you to make observations specific to my situation since I have never sought a professional diagnosis from you. Please keep your observations about me or my kids to yourself. (Respectfully stated)

1. The OP asked for opinions re certain areas.
2. I gave mine - and, I would like to add, that I've received a number of very positive messages regarding the info I presented to OP for their consideration.
3. If you want to contest info given by a poster, please contact that person by PM instead of getting into an argument about who's been in the SV or CA longer or posting criticisms against another member regarding any other point that upsets you. You may want to revisit the Terms of Service.
4. "Just the facts ma'am." Remember that saying? Just answer the OP's questions without commenting on someone else's post. Give your viewpoint/experiences and leave it at that.

I am stating the above in the nicest possible way.

Thanks,
Cali-girl

[t_thibaud]

If your kids are "nerdy" or heavily into math and science, then they should be fine in the grind-academy that is Cupertino schools ca. 2009. If not, then they'll probably have a very tough time, and you're better off in Santa Clara. My $0.02, YMMV

[treedonkey]

Originally Posted by bluebeard

The OP was about comparing 3 different cities, not comparing Asian and non-Asian areas.

True, but all three of those areas have very large Indian, Asian and Hispanic populations (among others) so I think the notion of race has relevance when comparing the three cities

What's this whole argument about anyways? I don't have time to read the last few pages?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by t_thibaud

If your kids are "nerdy" or heavily into math and science, then they should be fine in the grind-academy that is Cupertino schools ca. 2009. If not, then they'll probably have a very tough time, and you're better off in Santa Clara. My $0.02, YMMV

Kind of it, in a nutshell.

To not acknowledge this when answering questions about Cupertino and similar places to someone new to the area and its schools is to omit what could be a rather important aspect, especially to the kids who will be attending school there. Some kids might not be a good fit for this sort of atmosphere for a number of reasons, not necessarily nefarious, just personal preferences.

[johntremaine]

I think you're being a little over-sensitive here. No reason to take it to this level over the comments he made. Also, he is correct in that it does not directly relate to the comparison of the 3 cities mentioned...

Originally Posted by Cali-girl

*Ignores you.*

~Cali-girl

[bluebeard]

Originally Posted by Cali-girl

I am stating the above in the nicest possible way.

Thanks,
Cali-girl

Let me just say, when you insinuate the assertion that Asians sent my kids to therapy, you are going to get a response. You don't get to play the victim here. Your expression of white oppression comes off as a little insulting to some.
This is not about the quality of the article. The article was not as condescending as your post, but thank you for pointing out that it was written by an Asian, as if an Asian can't also have the ability to blow a race-based issue out of proportion.
I didn't not get any more personal than you. Check the title of your first response to me. You started the "experience" argument. In fact, you started just about all of the personal arguments. You are the one that makes it personal and states a lot of personal anecdotes and POV. THat's actually all this is. There are no studies or statistics being offered by either of us here.
And to assert that I should write a private response to a publicly stated issue is also silly.
Regarding the nerdiness factor. I know of no stronger determinant of creating a successful school then to have a student culture where intelligence is prized rather than derided. I also hear stories of many people from other schools, especially females, that pretended to be dumber than they are. I believe this is a much larger barrier to improving school than overemphasis on math and science. Go into any occupation regarding math and science and notice Americans are being outcompeted by far.

[treedonkey]

Originally Posted by bluebeard

Regarding the nerdiness factor. I know of no stronger determinant of creating a successful school then to have a student culture where intelligence is prized rather than derided.

So, NERDY = INTELLIGENT ?
I beg to differ.