09-22-2009, 04:55 PM
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Hi There. I am a female 30 something transplant to the bay area from westside LA. I didnt have to date in SF when I moved there because I was already married, but we did go out a lot and I observed the whole "singles scene".
09-23-2009, 02:40 PM
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Hi There. I am a female 30 something transplant to the bay area from westside LA. I didnt have to date in SF when I moved there because I was already married, but we did go out a lot and I observed the whole "singles scene".
hey there, thanks for your advice. I actually lived in LA as well - also on the westside - for 4 years. it was really fun and i enjoyed it, the men seemed to be on ball when it came to planning dates etc..is that what you mean when you say 'more masculine'? I did feel though that a very large percentage were trying to break into show biz - whether acting, directing or screenwriting. They were highly educated and successful, yet willing to give it all up for their 'big break' into Hollywood. I think that pipedream lifestyle fostered an attitude of commitment phobia and sort of looking around at the next best thing. it seemed like ppl didn't take life all that serisouly when it came to dating. All of my girlfriends I knew there were single. One actually moved up to the bay - not SF proper - and met a guy within 5 months, whom she ended up marrying. She thought the guys up there were way more down-to-earth and serious about life than in LA. How did you meet your husband? :-)
i actually would consider moving back to LA, but the air quality is an issue for me. I figure I already shaved a couple years off my life from my stint there, i don't need to shave off anymore. lol. It's the worst in the nation. Even in Santa Monica, i still never felt like I could breathe "fresh air".
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09-23-2009, 02:41 PM
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I was also called insecure by him for asking about the dating scene
This guy sounds so bitter.
Moxie, which city did you ask about and what did you find out about it (from ppl other than this guy. lol)?
12-05-2009, 04:24 PM
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i agree with the SF men. they are the WORST and the worst looking. the straight men are geeks always looking for sex (and w/ other men). you can have 'secrets' there since it's so liberal. the WORST guys are there....don't move there if you want to meet quality men. i've lived here for 13 years and am WELL above average in all categories, and i've had 2 boyfriends who couldn't commit. players and boys....
12-06-2009, 06:17 PM
Location: Bay Area
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i agree with the SF men. they are the WORST and the worst looking. the straight men are geeks always looking for sex (and w/ other men). you can have 'secrets' there since it's so liberal. the WORST guys are there....don't move there if you want to meet quality men. i've lived here for 13 years and am WELL above average in all categories, and i've had 2 boyfriends who couldn't commit. players and boys....
I've never experienced problems (prior to being married).
Usually when someone rants about all the men being secretly gay, players, boys,geeks, ugly--it's usually that you're ATTRACTING that sort of person.
Free advice from someone that grew up in SF (and met husband in SF after plenty of relationships in SF) Change the attitude, quit blaming bad luck or the entire male population of the Bay Area, and you might find a man with more desirable qualities. Your only two posts (ranting about the same thing) speak volumes.
There are thousands upon thousands of eligible, and smart men here (good looking is personal)- it's ridiculous that you (or anyone else) would paint them all with the same brush (especially since they all come from out of state usually). It takes time to find a suitable partner..you just need to know what you're looking for and not just take whatever comes along out of desperation or because they "chose" you.
12-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Location: San Leandro
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Man Jose is a great place for a woman. Tons of young IT guys and such looking for girlfriends and wives with good solid jobs, willing to one up each other. Sj is not a fun place to be a single guy, sort of the way I have heard woman complain about SF not being a fun place to meet single men The woman and men just need to head to a half way point like Palo Alto or something LoL...
12-08-2009, 12:09 AM
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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i did live in LA the last year i lived in California, and i met more men (even in traffic jams) in 5 months than i did in 10 years in SF.
What, working the street corner? (Really, your cred is downright scary after you publicly admit to trolling for dates on freeways.)
Lauding the LA dating scene while saying every guy in SF is gay is...to be quite unaware that there are more gay guys in LA. FYO
12-10-2009, 02:47 PM
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FWIW, I think that men overall, particularly those in the coastal urban areas of the US, have all become collectively more "metrosexual" over the past 10 or 20 years. What someone experienced in West LA a few years ago may not be what they'd experience there now. When I was single and dating (in both West LA, other parts of the Southland, and later, up here) I was as masculine as I needed to be without being obnoxious, was on the ball in terms of organizing dates, etc, and was respectful. And all that other good stuff.
12-10-2009, 02:50 PM
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Man Jose is a great place for a woman. Tons of young IT guys and such looking for girlfriends and wives with good solid jobs, willing to one up each other. Sj is not a fun place to be a single guy, sort of the way I have heard woman complain about SF not being a fun place to meet single men The woman and men just need to head to a half way point like Palo Alto or something LoL...
LOL! So true. It's funny having oppositely lopsided ratios in different parts of the same metro area.
I must say, being single back in the day in SF proper was pretty good for me personally.
12-10-2009, 05:02 PM
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Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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This guy sounds so bitter.
