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Old 07-19-2012, 12:57 PM
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i appreciate any info anyone can give me regarding my topic : ) --

My daughter was recently tested, and placed in the gifted program at school, she is 6, and labeled as Profoundly gifted. While we are over the moon proud, I'm terrified.

She is already showing signs of losing interest in school, and often gets frustrated with kids her own age. while I would love to have her at Pine View, we live in Manatee County and cannot move at this time. Does anyone know if they make exceptions to their boundaries?

Since she is so young, I'm having trouble finding resources relavent to her age group. I'm looking for more activities where she can be with kids that share her interests. She spends so much time with me, I'm worried about her socialization. She's a very happy, personable girl who enjoys the typical stuff, but I'm looking for more stimulation. She is in an A rated county school that we were very happy with until now..even at max gifted resource, it's just not doing much.Thryve been great, don't get me wrong, I'm doing all this reading about challenging, stimulating activities, and how vital it is to her success, so I'm stuck!

Even though I have an extensive background in ESE, my knowledge of gifted exceptionalities is limited.

We are almost positive she will be accepted into MENSA, and are also interested in finding out more about the area 10 group, but again..limited resources for being so young.

Any info on Pine View (other than what's on their website), or gifted related resources would be greatly appreciated. The school district hasn't been much help..
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:46 PM
Location: Port Charlotte, FL
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That is great news, but can be challenging as well. I wish you luck and continued success with your daughter.

The school district can certainly help you with resources and guiding you.
Dr. Sherry Lawrence
Curriculum Specialist
Fine & Performing Arts and Gifted
2501 63rd Avenue East
Bradenton, FL 34203
Phone: (941) 751-6550 Ext: 2107
Fax: (941) 751-7374

The Manatee County Schools has a Gifted section on their web site. Check it out for resources and events. The resources will help you learn more about the gifted program as well and ways to help your daughter.
Gifted Resources

Join a couple of the Gifted groups and subscribe to their newsletters. They have articles, resources, things to do, etc.
Working on Gifted Issues

Florida Association for the Gifted

Florida Gifted Network

My Florida: Gifted Education Page

Association for the Gifted

Center for Gifted Education & Talented Development

Davidson Institute for Talent Development

Supporting Emotional Needs of the Gifted

High Achieving Talented Students (HATS)

Gifted Advocacy Council of Hillsborough County

The Templeton National Report on Acceleration

National Association for Gifted Children
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:09 PM
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HI, i am sending you a direct message...
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:24 AM
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Oobie, I would hold off on Mensa for at least ten years unless you can find an age appropriate group. Having attended a few of their meetings, they are really a group of weirdos. YMMV. Good luck and congrats.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:30 AM
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Oobie, I would hold off on Mensa for at least ten years unless you can find an age appropriate group. Having attended a few of their meetings, they are really a group of weirdos. YMMV. Good luck and congrats.
but, speaking from experience, it's fun to see eyebrows go up when people get wind that your wacky 4 year old is a card carrying Mensan. You can buy her a lifetime Mensa membership and if she ever chooses to do something with it she can.
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:02 PM
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Relax. Don’t freak out because of the label ‘profoundly gifted’. Your daughter probably isn’t that different from her parents & you turned out fine.
3 important things- she needs friends, keep her excited about learning, & she will need a good school with peers.
Good you’re looking for activities with shared interests. Great that she’s so personable. Friendships can be a little complicated for gifted kids. Many kids their own age don’t understand or enjoy the same things. But she needs to be comfortable with normal people to feel normal herself. Maybe team sports, or activities that aren’t academic?

Peers may be the very best thing about Pine View. My kids LOVE PV. Partly because they fit in. 1 of my kids skipped a grade before PV. At 1st we said no. We knew academics would never be a problem, but we wanted to ensure he grew up a happy kid with friends. The teachers convinced us that skipping was better socially. The gifted kids a year ahead were his peers & he interacted much more with them. Check out all gifted options where you are, & maybe consider skipping a grade. (depends on birthdates, easier for a big boy than a small girl, though).

Keep it fun. Don’t worry too much about keeping her stimulated outside school. It’s not like her giftedness will expire if you don’t do flash cards all day. Keep her in a healthy balance. Bored with school could become a problem, though. Pine View can’t make any exceptions. Probably not legal, & besides, families move from all over the country to go there. (PV starts 2nd grade)

Don’t see any advantage to Mensa besides bragging rights, which you don’t need. You will have a hard enough time just talking to your mommy friends about kids without sounding like you’re bragging. Be careful. They won’t always understand or believe you. But that’s ok. Hold back. You don’t have to prove anything and neither does your daughter.
Enjoy your daughter. Don’t let her IQ define her. Keep her happy & balanced. And keep looking for the right school. :-D
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:32 PM
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Pine View isn't for everyone. My son loved the friends he made there, but work load was a nightmare. We would be up until 9 at night getting homework done... in third grade. He is gifted, but hates to sit, write, study, etc. Consider also Montessori. I wish I had! Very, very good option for gifted children, and their educational model is very hands-on and self-directed. Such an environment can be quite perfect for a gifted child.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:39 AM
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ok, i sent a new message - sorry about that.

the HW thing varies by child. Some drag it out (DS is a procrastinator) or don't plan and get backed up (DD learned this lesson). But in reality I have not seen more than 30 min of HW per night in grades 2,3,4 or 5. 2nd grade had the least, 3rd was light and very manageable, 4th had the most projects (some kids like that some kids don't - i have one of each lol) 5th grade had projects too.

DD9 is gifted but has LDs and did well. There is no "nightmare work load"
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:45 PM
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Allow me to answer as I went to Pine View for 10 years.

I was born and raised in Sarasota, went to a public elementary school (Lakeview, which is actually a really great public elementary school) but was way beyond my grade level so I was tested privately and found to be in the "gifted" category. Of course I was only 6 or 7 so I dont remember the process, what happened, why I was being tested, or what Pine View meant at the time, which I think my parents were smart to withhold from me, as I might have developed quite an ego or said inappropriate things when I was younger.

So I started there from grade 2 through 12, and I can honestly say its an amazing school. It gets hated on by a lot of people around Sarasota County for a variety of reasons, but any PV student can tell you that when they get to college, they are not only better prepared, but they can see the value of the education they received as a Python. I went to a FL state university and was appalled at the education level of most of the kids there- they were at the writing level I was at in 8th/9th grade.

The reason its a controversial school is because no one wants to hear that they arent as smart as someone else- its a very sensitive issue.

I personally loved the environment there, but I graduated 10 years ago and the landscape has since changed. The average SAT score is incredibly high and they always receive "A"s across the board on state tests.

There ARE disadvantages, however:

1. The kids can be snobby. Most of the children come from wealthy families, and as such PV has more than its fair share of brats. Usually they are gone by the high school years when the education gets more intense. I found that my graduating class was about 90% good kids.

2. No sports. Students at PV have to tryout and participate in sports at their district high school, which is tough for student-athletes. A lot of kids from middle school at PV ended up transferring to RHS and doing the IB program to try track & field and other things.

3. The size. I graduated with 110 kids. That meant I knew everyone to some extent. About half of the kids I had known since I was 7, which is a very special situation for most kids that change every few years. However, if you don't get along with someone, or if you make a social mistake, EVERYONE knows about it. There is no hiding, no wallflowers- you are exposed constantly.

4. Because they are always fighting for budgeting from the county, they lose great programs all the time. Some of the people in the SRQ government (who probably had kids who didn't get into PV) are always trying to short change Pine View's funding.

These are all minor concerns, and considering how AMAZING of an education I received at Pine View, I can only sing its praises. I'm a very proud Python, and I interact with my peers to this day.

It's not the normal high school experience, its extremely competitive, and the work load can be tough, but considering it's a public school, you absolutely cannot do any better in the state.
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