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Old 08-27-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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It would be nice if some Sarasota folks did something
nice for Sarasota's Seniors seeking the fresh outdoors.

You see, there is a wonderful Sarasota County Park,
the Legacy Trail, which we use often.

It is supposed to be a recreational trail and not a
sporting trail.

Lately, the trail is getting lots of use and the recreationals
have to share the trail with the cyclists.

Many, many times the cyclists zip past at speeds of
20+ mph. If the first rider fell a domino effect can happen
and hurt the recreationals.

Now, just recently, new larger signs were just added
to limit the seniors from going on the trail "at all" if
they had a scooter type power chair or an electric assist
trike/bike.

Since these signs have been placed we see more of
the sport cyclists and less of the disabled seniors.

Legacy trail rules post 15 mph limit and no one is
enforcing that limit. Mind you, 10 mph, in our opinion,
would be a better, safer limit for all parties.

Why should the Cyclists get more rights to the trail than the Seniors?

It's time to enforce a new lower 10 mph speed limit so
all can enjoy the trail. The current situation is an accident
waiting to happen.
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Old 08-27-2014, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Pffft. Grandma's scooters can whip their ass.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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Pffft. Grandma's scooters can whip their ass.
Go, granny - GO!
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: LWR CCE Belleisle
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Default Justice and Defense Loony Tunes

>It is supposed to be a recreational trail and not a
>sporting trail.

Says who? And what are the definitions of those terms?

>Lately, the trail is getting lots of use and the recreationals
>have to share the trail with the cyclists.

Bicycling is a major recreational activity, along with walking and running. These are the three primary activities for which the trail was originally established.

BTW, "recreational" is not a noun.

>Many, many times the cyclists zip past at speeds of
>20+ mph.

The speed limit is 15 mph. For that reason, most serious cyclists don't use the trail at all. The lowest category of cycling is generally considered to be 10-12 mph (D-rated riders). I seriously doubt that you could ride a bike at 10 mph or less without falling asleep.

15 mph is roughly 23 feet per second; 20 mph is roughly 30 feet per second. Pedestrians probably can't tell the difference.

>If the first rider fell a domino effect can happen and hurt the recreationals.

It's a lot more like to hurt the cyclists, and most likely to be caused by pedestrians.

>Now, just recently, new larger signs were just added
>to limit the seniors from going on the trail "at all" if
>they had a scooter type power chair or an electric assist
>trike/bike.

Those are motorized vehicles. Motorized vehicles have always been banned on the trail, new signs or no new signs.

>Why should the Cyclists get more rights to the trail than the Seniors?

They shouldn't, and they don't. It's a shared-use trail.

I have news for you: probably more than half the cyclists you see on the trail -- other than children -- ARE seniors. My wife and I are two of them.

>The current situation is an accident waiting to happen.

That might be true, but IMO, it's generally because most people ignore the existing posted rules, particularly keeping to the right, no more than two abreast, and those pertaining to dogs, which are suppose to be curbed to the right on leashes no longer than six feet.

-- Larry
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Old 08-29-2014, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Why did I already know you were a cyclist before you declared it? Could it be due to your attitude? Someone comes in here and makes a post and you attack. You ride in the street, 15 feet away from your bike trail, then flip drivers off when they honk at you for holding up traffic. I guess it's those (extremely sexy) tight fitting little spandex outfits and Erkel helmets that constrict blood flow. Just a guess, but I expect a pretty good one.
Excellent first post! Welcome to the "I dont want to comment on my real username so I'll re-register with a fake one" posters club. Enjoy your short stay.
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Old 08-29-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FL
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^^^Seems like a familiar behavior pattern, especially around THESE parts.
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Old 08-30-2014, 01:30 AM
 
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I wonder who is really wearing the spandex...
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Old 08-30-2014, 07:58 AM
 
Location: englewood
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Originally Posted by WantPalmerRanch View Post
It would be nice if some Sarasota folks did something
nice for Sarasota's Seniors seeking the fresh outdoors.

You see, there is a wonderful Sarasota County Park,
the Legacy Trail, which we use often.

It is supposed to be a recreational trail and not a
sporting trail.

Lately, the trail is getting lots of use and the recreationals
have to share the trail with the cyclists.

Many, many times the cyclists zip past at speeds of
20+ mph. If the first rider fell a domino effect can happen
and hurt the recreationals.

Now, just recently, new larger signs were just added
to limit the seniors from going on the trail "at all" if
they had a scooter type power chair or an electric assist
trike/bike.

Since these signs have been placed we see more of
the sport cyclists and less of the disabled seniors.

Legacy trail rules post 15 mph limit and no one is
enforcing that limit. Mind you, 10 mph, in our opinion,
would be a better, safer limit for all parties.

Why should the Cyclists get more rights to the trail than the Seniors?

It's time to enforce a new lower 10 mph speed limit so
all can enjoy the trail. The current situation is an accident
waiting to happen.

are you the same "senior" that fights to get around me in the aisle at publix and walmart and then just stops and blocks the entire aisle oblivious to everyone else behind them?

seriously, life must be pretty good (or simple) if this is what you have to complain about!
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Old 08-30-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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A 200 lb. Cyclist going 20 mph will inflict 8 times the
damage to a 125 lb. Grandma going 4 mph as she does to
him if they hit head-on from a surprise squirrel.

Little used, nearby Honore road extension is a more
appropriate route for Cyclists planning to exceed 10 mph.

A compromise can be made and we suggest signs should say:

"Reduce speed to 5 mph before passing oncoming pedestrians."

This simple rule is very similar in nature to a "school zone".

Cars slow down to 15 mph before entering a school zone.
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Old 08-30-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Can you please learn how to just type normally instead of inserting your own carriage returns?

Posts that you
tend to format
yourself are just
really hard and
silly to read
and makes the threads
pointless to
read
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