Balcony Flooring Repair - Contractor Needed

[Ladywithafan]

Originally Posted by bbronston

There are many different arrangements for condos when it comes to who is responsible for what. I agree that the norm would be that the association would be responsible (that's why I brought it up) but I can recall a condo of single family homes where the association was responsible for almost nothing. That's one of the reasons condo buyers need to review their docs before buying.

Correct me if I'm wrong but single family homes would be HOA & under that, nothing on the home is covered ~ just common areas such as grounds/landscaping/lakes/community pool/tennis courts/clubhouse ~ sometimes streets if they're private to the association...HOA or Condominium docs plus Rules & Regulations spell everything out...

[bbronston]

Originally Posted by Ladywithafan

Correct me if I'm wrong but single family homes would be HOA & under that, nothing on the home is covered ~ just common areas such as grounds/landscaping/lakes/community pool/tennis courts/clubhouse ~ sometimes streets if they're private to the association...HOA or Condominium docs plus Rules & Regulations spell everything out...

Sorry but I'm not following what you are asking.

[upgrader]

Originally Posted by Ladywithafan

I find this hard to believe that the condominium association is not responsible as this would still be consider within common shared elements even thought it's off your unit

It all depends on exactly what's in your condominium documents. For example, I live in a condo association (where I've been the treasurer and secretary). This association has jurisdiction over two condominium phases. In phase 1, the association is responsible for balcony maintenance and repair. In phase two, the balcony is the responsibility of the unit owner.

Florida condominium law wasn't written to benefit the eventual owners. It was written (IMHO) for the benefit of the developers. The developers have amazing latitude in what they can do (and document).

[bbronston]

Originally Posted by upgrader

Florida condominium law wasn't written to benefit the eventual owners. It was written (IMHO) for the benefit of the developers. The developers have amazing latitude in what they can do (and document).

I think we have been through this before but, FWIW, the flaw in your opinion, IMHO, is that the developers are only on the projects for a relatively short time. After that, the unit owners are the association and the law allows for the association to make changes in the documents as they see fit. If unit owners are unhappy with what is contained in the docs because they initially do benefit the developer, they are free to change them IF there is the will to do it. You are on a board so obviously you are aware of this. So, to say that the law was written to benefit the developers (even if true) still ignores the reality that the law also accommodates the will of the owners as an association to change what they deem needed. IOW, even if you are correct (and I think you are to the degree that developers lobby lawmakers and get much of what they want), I think you are being somewhat disingenuous in saying it because you are ignoring a critically important aspect of the law that provides safeguards to the associations after the developers are gone.

[upgrader]

Originally Posted by bbronston

I think we have been through this before but, FWIW, the flaw in your opinion, IMHO, is that the developers are only on the projects for a relatively short time. After that, the unit owners are the association and the law allows for the association to make changes in the documents as they see fit. If unit owners are unhappy with what is contained in the docs because they initially do benefit the developer, they are free to change them IF there is the will to do it. You are on a board so obviously you are aware of this. So, to say that the law was written to benefit the developers (even if true) still ignores the reality that the law also accommodates the will of the owners as an association to change what they deem needed. IOW, even if you are correct (and I think you are to the degree that developers lobby lawmakers and get much of what they want), I think you are being somewhat disingenuous in saying it because you are ignoring a critically important aspect of the law that provides safeguards to the associations after the developers are gone.

Really? REALLY?? R E A L L Y ????

I know that you make your coin from churning homes. But if you sleep at night, maybe I can change that.

What does it take to amend condo docs? 100 percent? Maybe 66 percent if the docs permit it?

Do you really think 66 percent of condo dwellers even understand what the heck they bought?

OK, I'm guessing you laugh yourself to sleep as you collect commissions from condo and hoa buyers.

[bbronston]

Originally Posted by upgrader

Really? REALLY?? R E A L L Y ????

I know that you make your coin from churning homes. But if you sleep at night, maybe I can change that.

What does it take to amend condo docs? 100 percent? Maybe 66 percent if the docs permit it?

Do you really think 66 percent of condo dwellers even understand what the heck they bought?

OK, I'm guessing you laugh yourself to sleep as you collect commissions from condo and hoa buyers.

Yes, really. We have done it in my condo. Not easy but possible. It just takes will and effort. I'm dealing in fact and you are dealing in insults.

[upgrader]

Originally Posted by bbronston

Yes, really. We have done it in my condo. Not easy but possible. It just takes will and effort. I'm dealing in fact and you are dealing in insults.

Didn't mean to insult. I'm surprised that you got 66 percent (or maybe 100 percent) to amend your docs.

My experience; it "only" takes over 50 percent of a condo to vote to recall the BOD. That was an amazing effort.

Can you share the details of your situation?

[bbronston]

Originally Posted by upgrader

Really? REALLY?? R E A L L Y ????

I know that you make your coin from churning homes. But if you sleep at night, maybe I can change that.
OK, I'm guessing you laugh yourself to sleep as you collect commissions from condo and hoa buyers.

Yeah....you might as well have called me a money-grubbng, unethical, weasel and, yeah, I find it insulting. If you don't get that (and I think it was you who insulted another poster by questioning her intelligence) then you need to check yourself.

[upgrader]

Originally Posted by bbronston

Yeah....you might as well have called me a money-grubbng, unethical, weasel and, yeah, I find it insulting. If you don't get that (and I think it was you who insulted another poster by questioning her intelligence) then you need to check yourself.

Nope, not at all. You are a salesman. Sales churn money. The velocity of money keeps the economy intact. I just wish the velocity of money was tied to integrity.