Flesh eating bacteria near Sarasota (Bradenton, University: credit, university, inspections)

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by craigiri

In any case, if you want to live....stay out of the water for now -especially if you are old, sick, have a cut, compromised immune system or something else (basically all of us qualify).

Even the Florida Government Health Dept. agrees with a lot of the above statement. That is really saying something!

Sad.

There's a lot of people canceling trips to Florida, cutting trips short, and canceling retirement plans.

[bbronston]

It doesn’t seem to be having an impact on sales tax collected in Sarasota County. According to the Florida Department of Revenue:
Season 2018
1/18=$1.61M
2/18=$1.35M
3/18=$1.33M
And first month of summer
6/18=$1.27M

After all the red tide news:
Season 2019
1/19=$1.73M
2/19=$1.37M
3/19=$1.33M
and first month of summer
6/19=$1.32M

Amazing considering all those people who must be dying after going to the beach, going fishing, using their boats, or just having some seafood. Of course, you don’t hear about all those because Realtors only let news of a few leak out now and then. We are powerful that way.

[Corrie22]

...do you guys realize you're talking about gangrene?

That's what it was called until a few years ago..then the media changed what they call it to flesh eating bacteria
...and that's why you don't remember it being around

There's twice as many cases each year in California, people get it working in their yards no where near the beach...some guy made the news not too long ago because he got blisters hiking a mountain in New Hampshire...and he got it
..and there's over twice as many cases in Europe each year

When you eat it....oysters....you get sick and diarrhea...and it's normally on your skin anyway..you take it with you, you can't avoid it...and any one of many germs on your skin can do it

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by sinatras

There's a lot of people canceling trips to Florida, cutting trips short, and canceling retirement plans.

I remember reading all these doom and gloom predictions during our most recent Red Tide episode, and how it would kill tourism, yet I predicted tourism would still increase...and I was correct and they were all wrong!

The East coast of Florida has a terrible bout of Sargassum Brown Algae (no doubt man-made, and caused by deniers, bad septic tanks, plastics, and climate change ), yet I'm on my way over there tomorrow for some R&R. I rented a place on the beach. I'm predicting their tourism revenues will grow despite the mess over there too. I'll get back to you all in a few months after their tourism revenue results are in.

Florida is booming despite what Mother Nature throws at it. Tourism is increasing, population is increasing, and the economy is growing. Let the good times roll! The doom and gloomers hate it when the rest of us are all having so much fun, and enjoying our prosperity. They also hate it that our new Governor, Ron DeSantis, is being highly praised by people who never voted for him, and by the Miami Herald for being the best Florida Governor on the environment Florida has had in many years. Grrr say the gloomers.

There will always be doom and gloomers making predictions that turn out to be wrong time and time again. They never come back later after they've been prooven wrong, and admit it. I should make a list of all of their city-data forum code names who predicted tourism armageddon due to Red Tide for all to see.

Yet they keep driving cars instead of bicycles, buying plastics at the grocery stores instead of in bulk using re-usable containers, consuming excessive electricty by running HVAC systems (some more than 1 if they are snowbirds that have multiple homes), and pollute as much, or more, as anyone else.

The hypocrisy just never ends. They will never take action to clean up their own acts, but insist that the rest of us do..or the World will come to an end. They are all talk and NO action, and their talk is full of you know what.

[xz2y]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

...do you guys realize you're talking about gangrene?

That's what it was called until a few years ago..then the media changed what they call it to flesh eating bacteria
...and that's why you don't remember it being around

There's twice as many cases each year in California, people get it working in their yards no where near the beach...some guy made the news not too long ago because he got blisters hiking a mountain in New Hampshire...and he got it
..and there's over twice as many cases in Europe each year

When you eat it....oysters....you get sick and diarrhea...and it's normally on your skin anyway..you take it with you, you can't avoid it...and any one of many germs on your skin can do it

Good articles on necrotizing fasciitis (flesh-eating bacteria):

https://www.healthlinkbc.ca/health-topics/hw140405

https://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthli...eating-disease

https://www.upmc.com/services/sports...zing-fasciitis

[xz2y]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

I remember reading all these doom and gloom predictions during our most recent Red Tide episode, and how it would kill tourism, yet I predicted tourism would still increase...and I was correct and they were all wrong!

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Not exactly. Fox news says otherwise:

"Toxic red tide butchers Florida tourism and wildlife | Fox Business"

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...m-and-wildlife

"Gov. Rick Scott declared a state of emergency on Monday for several counties dealing with the nine-month-old red tide algae bloom which has hurt Florida’s economy. It is the second emergency order issued by Scott this summer. The Sunshine State has not seen a bloom of this magnitude in more than a decade."

"Red tide has created $82 million in economic losses to the seafood, restaurant and tourism industries each year in the U.S., according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration."

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.0bee7e4afffe

“Everybody on Sanibel island has taken a hit and continues to take a hit,” Schuldenfrei said. “Hotels have had a tremendous amount of cancellations and more than a million in lost revenue.”

"August has been brutal for Sarasota County, where McShane sat on a folding chair on the top-rated beach at Siesta Key. In the second week of the month — one of the worst of the red-tide bloom — small-business revenue fell by as much as 50 percent, according to a survey conducted by the local convention and visitors bureau."

[bbronston]

Originally Posted by craigiri

Wait a couple years.
These things are lagging indicators - being as Red Tide didn't clear up until about 2019.......and the flesh is all 2019...and the poo articles are continuous now (overflowing of sewers

We just were told that these negative effects were already happening.

[skeddy]

the Gulf is quickly becoming toxic.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by xz2y

Not exactly. Fox news says otherwise:

"Toxic red tide butchers Florida tourism and wildlife | Fox Business"

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...m-and-wildlife

"Gov. Rick Scott declared a state of emergency on Monday for several counties dealing with the nine-month-old red tide algae bloom which has hurt Florida’s economy. It is the second emergency order issued by Scott this summer. The Sunshine State has not seen a bloom of this magnitude in more than a decade."

"Red tide has created $82 million in economic losses to the seafood, restaurant and tourism industries each year in the U.S., according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration."

____________________________

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.0bee7e4afffe

“Everybody on Sanibel island has taken a hit and continues to take a hit,” Schuldenfrei said. “Hotels have had a tremendous amount of cancellations and more than a million in lost revenue.”

"August has been brutal for Sarasota County, where McShane sat on a folding chair on the top-rated beach at Siesta Key. In the second week of the month — one of the worst of the red-tide bloom — small-business revenue fell by as much as 50 percent, according to a survey conducted by the local convention and visitors bureau."

The local tourism board's for THIS FORUM AREA's numbers for 2018 over 2017 (an entire year) showed a increase in tourism revenues. August is just 1 month. An entire year is more relevant than 1 month (August). Red Tide hit SW Florida harder than anywhere else, yet tourism revenues still grew right here in the epicenter of the bloom. This entire forum area's results are more relevant than 1 town (Sanibel).

These results are more important than what Rick Scott said during the bloom.

Statewide, $82M is chump change. Florida's economy continues to grow, as does the entire tourism sector. You are making the mistake of listening to the media who scews reality using incomplete data. They sensationalize things to sell advertising, or to push their own political agenda. They are propaganda machines that no longer report news.

72% of Americans realize the media lies, or misleads. Only 28% that still believes in mainstream media outlets like the Washington Post. That is why newspapers continue to lose money and go out of business.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...-be-fake-false

Florida tourism in this forum area continues to BOOM! Nothing can stop it. Not even a horrible naturally occurring organism that pre-dates civilization here. Some years it grows faster than other years. What the ex-Governor said, or what happens in 1 month, or in 1 small town does not outweigh the the increase forthis entire area for all of 2018.

Might it have grown even more without the bloom, sure. I can agree to that. Did it grow less than prior years, yes it did. But it still grew and life goes on. The currents in the Gulf will continue to kick up Red Tide long after we are all gone.

[craigiri]

Originally Posted by bbronston

We just were told that these negative effects were already happening.

Negative effects last for decades my friend. Look at the Great Recession and the war spending. It will be many decades before we pay that down, if ever....and these things don't help Real Estate or anything else.

In my adult life I've already lived through two events which set real estate prices even (or down) for a decade...and a few others that also did it for years.

Nothing affects anything...until it does. And it is. Sometimes that is measured as "slower growth", other times "quality of life" which the local visitors stats says is down....for one of the first times ever.

Visitor satisfaction was 96% in 2015 and 86% in 2018....

Ah, nothing. Nothing. Pay no attention to the poo spills of a billion gallons just in our little area. That can't hurt anything, right?