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Old 03-02-2020, 09:35 PM
 
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The reason its alarming is because those with compromised lung functionality who are at risk of mortality are at MUCH greater risk than an average flu / cold. Basically, if you have lung issues, chronic illness such as Bronchitis or Asthma, weakened immune system, smoker, or elderly... you face a much bigger threat than your average healthy joe blow 30 year old catching the flu.

Its basically like this, the average healthy person won't feel much different than a strong flu or cold, but a person who has compromised lung functions as is could be seeing a death sentence.

The Flu comparatively kills about 0.1% of all known cases. This Virus kills aproximately 2% of all known cases - thats almost twice as many people.
so in the USA we have just over a 100 cases and six deaths...that's where the 2 per cent death rate becomes irrelevant.
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:05 PM
 
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Virus expert: As much as 70 percent of world's population could get coronavirus

Full article here:
https://news.google.com/articles/CBM...S&ceid=US%3Aen

** A Harvard University epidemiologist says that as much as 70 percent of the world's population could get the coronavirus.

Marc Lipsitch told CBS News in an interview airing Monday that "40 to 70 percent" of the global population could become infected with coronavirus and that it's "almost inevitable" that the virus will impact the "entire globe." He added that 1 percent of those who develop symptoms could die.

"That is a projection, so we will find out if it's accurate as things go on," Lipsitch said. "It is the best estimate that I've been able to make based on a combination of the mathematical models that we use to track and predict epidemics."

Lipsitch pointed out that some people who are infected show no or almost no symptoms, but it's unclear how many cases like that exist. **
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Old 03-03-2020, 06:57 PM
 
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so in the USA we have just over a 100 cases and six deaths...that's where the 2 per cent death rate becomes irrelevant.
China is on the way down on the first big outbreaks so their numbers are fairly valid.....

BIG difference in ages.....that is, over 70 is 8% over 60 is 3.5% and if one is less than 50 the odds are down less than 1%.

Unfortunately for us, lots of seniors in Florida.

No stats from the USA will mean much for months but it is hard to see how it would differ much.

15-20% of patients need either oxygen for weeks or to be in a hospital with a respirator. I cannot imagine that the local hospitals here have room for thousands of such patients...or even 100's at one time.

Here is China mortality chart:
https://i.insider.com/5e583c47fee23d...jpeg&auto=webp
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Old 03-03-2020, 07:00 PM
 
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The Flu comparatively kills about 0.1% of all known cases. This Virus kills aproximately 2% of all known cases - thats almost twice as many people.
1. See chart above - mortality is as high as 15% depending on age
2. 2% is 20X higher than .1%
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Old 03-04-2020, 01:53 PM
 
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general global statistics.

Coronavirus: WHO announces global death rate is 3.4%
The total number of global cases has passed 93,000 with more than 3,200 fatalities. The latest updates from around the world:

Flag of China China announced a decline in reported infections
Flag of South Korea South Korea will spend $9.8 billion to help affected businesses
Flag of Iran 8% of Iran’s parliament has the coronavirus
Flag of United States The US now has reported 10 deaths
Flag of United Nations Information from WHO and health agencies
Spiral note pad Information from journalists, health experts, epidemiologists and more

- Tokyo Olympics could be postponed
- Hong Kong follows Fed cut
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Old 03-05-2020, 04:49 PM
 
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as of Thursday 3/5/2020:

Florida state officials say they don’t have enough testing kits to meet federal guidelines for who should be tested for novel coronavirus

Unless the state is able to expand its testing capability, the current standards for testing in Florida are that a patient meet two of the following three criteria:

▪ Travel to or from an area with widespread community transmission — Italy, China, South Korea and Japan — and showing symptoms of COVID-19: cough, shortness of breath and fever.

▪ Close contact with a confirmed COVID-19 case, with the same symptoms.

▪ Severe, acute lower respiratory illness and fever requiring hospitalization, and without an alternate diagnosis, like the flu.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/hea...#storylink=cpy
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Old 03-06-2020, 04:28 PM
 
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Here's just a bit of good news: viruses dislike heat and humidity, they die off that way. Yay for Florida it has plenty of both.
It's possible that Florida's natural conditions will result in fewer transmissions. Let's hope so.
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Old 03-07-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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2 Deaths in Florida. New positives in Broward County and Lee County:

2 new Coronavirus positives in Lee county(Fort Myers area). 1 person has died. 2nd person in isolation.

Coronavirus death in Santa Rosa (Panhandle).

2 new positives in in Broward County (Ft Lauderdale/Palm Beach area).

Doctors Hospital in Sarasota announced that the person from Manatee county has been released from Doctors Hospital.


https://www.clickorlando.com/news/lo...-confirmation/

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Old 03-07-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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Here's just a bit of good news: viruses dislike heat and humidity, they die off that way. Yay for Florida it has plenty of both.
It's possible that Florida's natural conditions will result in fewer transmissions. Let's hope so.
Sunlight reportedly is deadly for coronaviruses, so as persons spend more time outside, transmission rates may decline.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science...ublic-surfaces

https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-02-...ing-under-lamp

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Old 03-07-2020, 01:25 PM
 
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Sunlight reportedly is deadly for coronaviruses, so as persons spend more time outside, transmission rates may decline.
Not sure about elsewhere but in general I certainly don't see a big percentage of the seniors...or even others..outside here often.

Walked miles today - and to downtown and most everyone is in cars or piling into restaurants, etc.

Any help from sunshine is probably far offset by the number of people here who just left those giant aluminum tubes (airliners). Also, driving is a prime way to catch it (the NY patient that has spread to many did so). That is, if you are in a car with someone who has it the odds are not good.

All in all I'd say well less than 10% of the people here spend time outside in the sunshine with any regularity - and that is probably a high guess.

As most probably know, the joker who wore a Gas Mask to Congress and embarrassed our state...just had a death in his district today.

In Florida we really won't know much for about 3-4 weeks. That would give time for a lot of tests to get here, the people get tested and some results known and then disseminated. Until then we are really in the dark.

Life is pretty much normal around here - no empty shelves and people out eating, etc.

I've heard cancellations to some Spring Training Tours are up....maybe I'll be able to find some last minute good tickets. I told the wife I wouldn't worry about going if we had the decent seats (a big of room around us)...they are really open air in most stadiums.
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