Coronavirus positives in Bradenton and Hillsborough Counties (University: hair salon, unemployment rate)

[wondermint2]

The Sarasota County comissioners are meeting this coming Wednesday to discuss opening the beaches. IMO the most likely outcome will be a "limited opening" with reduced hours, exercise allowed, but no sunbathing, towels, beach chairs etc. That is what they are currently doing in the Jacksonville area.

According to Trump's new guidelines - local governments should see a downward trend of new COVID-19 cases for 14 days before considering easing into limited reopenings.. This is detailed here on the official White House web site:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/


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Meanwhile Sarasota County and Manatee County had a rise in new COVID-19 cases on Friday:

"Overall, Manatee County has 326 cases, up from 309 the previous day, and Sarasota County 274, up from 260. Statewide, there were 24,753 reported infections, up from 23,340. It marked the first time in since Tuesday that the number of cases across Florida topped 1,000."

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/2...total-tops-700


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Coronavirus Florida: Sarasota County will consider reopening beaches:
https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/2...pening-beaches

"Sarasota County’s world-famous beaches have been empty for nearly a month, but that could change on Wednesday.

In a Facebook post on Friday, Sarasota County Commissioner Christian Ziegler said he wants the commission to discuss the possibility of opening the county’s sugar sand beaches.

One scenario could allow residents to use the shoreline for walking and jogging but not allow crowds to congregate in beach chairs or under canopies. Another could allow the beaches to open entirely with no restrictions."

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by graceC

I also don’t understand this whole insistence on testing. It’s not like, once tested negative you’re done. You could have negative testing now and get infected 10 minutes later from somewhere.

If everybody with symptoms was able to get a test, they could quarantine themselves and not risk infecting others.

Combined with contact tracing, testing of contacts, and effective quarantine policies, we could much more safely phase out social distancing policies.

<<Testing for the coronavirus would have to be at least doubled or tripled from its current levels to allow for even a partial reopening of America's economy, public health experts say, but it is unclear how soon such an ambitious goal could be reached amid persistent shortages of testing supplies and a lack of coordination from the Trump administration.

Without diagnostic testing on a massive scale, federal and state officials and private companies will lack a clear picture of who has been infected, who can safely return to work, how the virus is spreading and when stay-at-home orders can be eased, public health experts say.>>

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...afely-n1185881

South Korea used massive testing efforts, contract tracing, and effective quarantine policies to control the epidemic WITHOUT SOCIETY-WIDE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND WITHOUT TRASHING THEIR ECONOMY.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...utbreak-2020-4

By contrast, the Trump administration has been incredibly inept in providing testing resources and a nationwide plan to control the epidemic.

<<Even as Donald Trump has delineated his plan to relax social distancing, the United States remains very much in the dark about who has the coronavirus and who does not. We have a shortage of COVID-19 tests, and we simultaneously have the highest number of confirmed cases in the world. Consequently, not every American who wants a test can get one. Not every health-care worker can get one. Not even every patient entering a hospital can get one. Because of the shortages, we are rationing tests, and medical facilities and public-health officials are prioritizing the sickest patients for them....

COVID-19 testing has been an unmitigated failure in this country. This month, according to the COVID Tracking Project, a data initiative launched by The Atlantic in March, the number of tests performed in the United States has plateaued at about 130,000 to 160,000 a day. Rather than growing rapidly—as all experts think is absolutely necessary—the daily number of tests administered in some jurisdictions has even decreased. In New York, for instance, 10,241 tests were performed on April 6, but supply limits forced a huge drop a few days later to 25 total tests. Quest Diagnostics, one of the two biggest firms that run tests, just furloughed 9 percent of its workforce. In addition, news reports suggest that, as of last week, 90 percent of the 15-minute tests developed by Abbott Laboratories are idle due to a lack of necessary reagents and qualified personnel. Testing bottlenecks such as these are major obstacles to getting Americans out of their homes and back on the job.>>

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...people/610234/

[djsuperfly]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

Compliance. That's why. Get the whole population to do what govt says.

So govt is trying to brainwash people to test test test. Compound that with lack of tests? People listen to test test test mantra all day long ... people start to DEMAND tests. For themselves for their neighbors for the butcher the baker the candlestick maker ...

Suddenly govt has the people doing govt's job for it. Govt doesn't need to mandate tests. People have already decreed it must. be. so.

Only: people think it was THEIR idea, not govt. Because everybody knows govt is stupid and incompetent. People are SO much smarter ... wink wink.

With no realization how people have been manipulated, they do exactly as govt planned all along.

Dude, you really ought to move to Michigan or Idaho where all the militias are. Even a super-conservative area like this isn't that far gone.

This is a "novel" virus--meaning we've never dealt with it before. Widespread testing allows us to get a true and accurate picture of what is actually going on on the ground. Not doing widespread testing actually runs counter to your idea of "this is no big deal" and "let's just open things back up." The reality is you could be right. But without widespread testing we have no idea.

The reality is that government may be talking about testing because it makes people feel better to hear about it, but the true reality on the ground among people that are still out there in essential services, especially healthcare, is that that testing in "real world" situations isn't really happening.

[joshan]

Interesting story if true, what is there to hide?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fl...cy/ar-BB12KBlk

[wondermint2]

I have to say I feel badly for those that are enduring hardship because of the current economic downturn - and I understand thats it's good policy for the federal government to offer assistance. However IMO this new proposed legislation (see below) is probably going a bit too far. With all of this printing of money - the value of the dollar is bound to go down. Sooner or later it could cost like $10 to buy a gallon of milk.

Proposed: $2,000 Monthly Stimulus Checks And Canceled Rent And Mortgage Payments For 1 Year:
https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

"The CARES Act provided a lifeline for taxpayers and small businesses. But as a one-time cash payment, many fear that it didn’t do enough to support taxpayers in one of our country’s greatest times of need. Especially in light of the fact that many people still have not received their stimulus checks.

To address this, Congressional leaders have made two separate proposals, one that would provide Americans over the age of 16 with a $2,000 monthly check for up to 12 months, and one that would cancel rent and mortgage payments through the duration of the coronavirus emergency."

[djsuperfly]

Originally Posted by joshan

Interesting story if true, what is there to hide?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fl...cy/ar-BB12KBlk

There's plenty to hide in the nursing home industry. It is filled with understaffed, underpaid employees and seriously egregious regulatory issues. The companies that run them in FL are big business, and they do everything they can to keep their sub-standardness out of the spotlight.

[djsuperfly]

Originally Posted by wondermint2

I have to say I feel badly for those that are enduring hardship because of the current economic downturn - and I understand thats it's good policy for the federal government to offer assistance. However IMO this new proposed legislation (see below) is probably going a bit too far. With all of this printing of money - the value of the dollar is bound to go down. Sooner or later it could cost like $10 to buy a gallon of milk.

Proposed: $2,000 Monthly Stimulus Checks And Canceled Rent And Mortgage Payments For 1 Year:
https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

"The CARES Act provided a lifeline for taxpayers and small businesses. But as a one-time cash payment, many fear that it didn’t do enough to support taxpayers in one of our country’s greatest times of need. Especially in light of the fact that many people still have not received their stimulus checks.

To address this, Congressional leaders have made two separate proposals, one that would provide Americans over the age of 16 with a $2,000 monthly check for up to 12 months, and one that would cancel rent and mortgage payments through the duration of the coronavirus emergency."

It's two Representatives that have made this proposal. It's certainly not clear that this has made any traction among all Democratic House members, let alone all Democratic Congressmen, let alone the entire bicameral legislation.

[wondermint2]

Detailed article from the New York Times about the new antibody tests for COVID-19. Published on April 19, 2020.

Antibody Test, Seen as Key to Reopening Country, Does Not Yet Deliver:
https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

"The tests, many made in China without F.D.A. approval, are often inaccurate. Some doctors are misusing them. The rollout is nowhere close to the demand."

"In recent weeks, the United States has seen the first rollout of blood tests for coronavirus antibodies, widely heralded as crucial tools to assess the reach of the pandemic in the United States, restart the economy and reintegrate society.

But for all their promise, the tests — intended to signal whether people may have built immunity to the virus — are already raising alarms.

Officials fear the effort may prove as problematic as the earlier launch of diagnostic tests that failed to monitor which Americans, and how many, had been infected or developed the disease the virus causes. Criticized for a tragically slow and rigid oversight of those tests months ago, the federal government is now faulted by public health officials and scientists for greenlighting the antibody tests too quickly and without adequate scrutiny."

[wondermint2]

Apparently the protesters carrying out demonstrations in various states about their freedoms being violated by the economic shutdowns are among the "vocal minority".

In new poll, 60 percent support keeping stay-at-home restrictions to fight coronavirus:
https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

April 19, 2020

"WASHINGTON — Nearly 60 percent of American voters say they are more concerned that a relaxation of stay-at-home restrictions would lead to more COVID-19 deaths than they are that those restrictions will hurt the U.S. economy, according to a new national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll."

[graceC]

Originally Posted by wondermint2

In new poll, 60 percent support keeping stay-at-home restrictions to fight coronavirus

Yeah, I want to know how many of the 60% have lost their jobs and are suffering from this shut down. Have they even seen the lines at food banks everywhere?