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Old 03-07-2020, 03:06 PM
 
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Life is pretty much normal around here - no empty shelves and people out eating, etc.
We were running errands today and Costco is limiting purchases of toilet paper, cases of water, paper towels and Clorox wipes to 2. A worker said that they’re gone a few hours after stock is put out. Costco was also wiping down each cart with a disinfectant wipe at the entrance. Walmart and Target have empty shelves where hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes would be.
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Old 03-07-2020, 07:59 PM
 
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The idea that florida, ranked #49 in health care access, is going to be effective, transparent and thorough with the public......seems unlikely to me. Remember Red Tide? Studies showed it harmful up to 5KM inland....but the official news was that it was OK except right on the beach.

Here is an example from today - note that the person gives their real name, etc. -
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4fEY_X...jpg&name=large

"In hospial with all the symptoms of coronavirus, had direct contact with sick Chinese citizens recently. Florida health department refusing to have me tested."

The good news is she tested positive today for Flu. The bad news is she still hasn't been tested for CV.
Does one preclude the other or can they be concurrent?
Or does anyone know?

And that is the same scenario that other people have reported
They might have a symptomatic symptoms—like no travel outside the country—but still test positive when they are finally tested....

Ask yourself how those people in the nursing home came down with it
They certainly weren’t traveling to Wuhan...

The attorney in NJ is responsible for all the cases up there and he certainly wasn’t caught at the “border”

Trump doesn’t want lot of people tested because he is afraid of what it will do to the economy
Well, that is proven false
It is NOT knowing that creates the vacuum

S Korea has a massive testing program—drive in testing even—which keeps people contained in their cars vs a waiting room w/other vulnerable people—
They have over 100K confirmed cases but having that number of confirmed CoVid-19 active then it also lowers the ration of deaths...
S Korea now has the lowest death ratio from CoVid-19
And they are PROACTIVE in seeking it out to confine and treat

The US couldn’t find CoVid-19 patients until they are swarming the gates like the Zombies in “World War Z”....

Plus results in China for recovered victims (admittedly most are seniors because that is who got sick) show signs of neurological damage—
This is a respiratory disease—it goes to the lungs—it creates an auto-immune response to make the body fight against itself and yet survivors are getting neurological damage...
That is something the doctors aren’t talking about
The more severe the incident—the sicker the patient—the stronger/significant the neurological damage

That is a lasting reminder that you have come through CoVid-19...
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Old 03-07-2020, 08:03 PM
 
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We were running errands today and Costco is limiting purchases of toilet paper, cases of water, paper towels and Clorox wipes to 2. A worker said that they’re gone a few hours after stock is put out. Costco was also wiping down each cart with a disinfectant wipe at the entrance. Walmart and Target have empty shelves where hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes would be.
We are in DFW home now
Our Costco was out of nitrile groves last week when we went
Not because people were buying for themselves but probably because some “entrepreneur” bought all that was there to resell on EBay...

Our son has cancer—he has a feeding tube and a PEG feeding tube—we use nitrile gloves daily—more than once, too...

Groceries in TX are doing the same thing==limiting purchases of certain items
All it does is make someone go to multiple stores to get what they think they need
My husband and I can go to Costco
We can Separate w/a basket each
And double our purchases

If you want to cheat there are ways...
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Old 03-08-2020, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FL
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I was at Disney Magic Kingdom yesterday. I expected low crowd levels but the place was packed. The media are definitely overstating the public reaction. I heard before going that the crowds were extremely low. We also picked up my daughter at Orlando International and the parking lots were full.

That’s not to say that there’s no cause for concern or that things can’t or won’t get significantly worse than they are now but there’s no doubt that the reports of panic buying are not the whole story.
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Old 03-08-2020, 03:25 PM
 
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Sunday 3/8/2020 - A new person in Manatee County tested positive. This is not the same person that was discharged from Doctors Hostpital a couple days ago.
https://www.mysuncoast.com/2020/03/0...anatee-county/


Death Rate for the virus in the USA is 5.9% per this article. Other countries have lower death rate.

https://news.yahoo.com/one-chart-sho...225900214.html
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Old 03-08-2020, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Sarasota/ Bradenton - University Pkwy area
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Limited coronavirus testing in the US has meant its death rate appears alarmingly high — but it will likely drop

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-w...testing-2020-3
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Old 03-08-2020, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The reason its alarming is because those with compromised lung functionality who are at risk of mortality are at MUCH greater risk than an average flu / cold. Basically, if you have lung issues, chronic illness such as Bronchitis or Asthma, weakened immune system, smoker, or elderly... you face a much bigger threat than your average healthy joe blow 30 year old catching the flu.

Its basically like this, the average healthy person won't feel much different than a strong flu or cold, but a person who has compromised lung functions as is could be seeing a death sentence.

The Flu comparatively kills about 0.1% of all known cases. This Virus kills aproximately 2% of all known cases - thats almost twice as many people.
Um about 20 times as many people....
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:30 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Sunday 3/8/2020 - A new person in Manatee County tested positive. This is not the same person that was discharged from Doctors Hostpital a couple days ago.
https://www.mysuncoast.com/2020/03/0...anatee-county/


Death Rate for the virus in the USA is 5.9% per this article. Other countries have lower death rate.

https://news.yahoo.com/one-chart-sho...225900214.html
The death rate is skewed because it hit a assisted living place in WA and that was horrible. Nothing you can do about that. I suspect the death rate to come down to flu level in a few weeks and this whole thing will start being more relaxed. I really think we are going nuts in some parts of the country. Here in Pittsburgh it is VERY mellow and grocery stores to my knowledge aren't effected at all. No one seems to care.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:32 AM
 
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Here's just a bit of good news: viruses dislike heat and humidity, they die off that way. Yay for Florida it has plenty of both.
It's possible that Florida's natural conditions will result in fewer transmissions. Let's hope so.
Not going to happen
The virus has no problem existing for days at 98 degrees
Right now FL is in winter mode and the temps are not close—just a balmy upper 80s

Plus consider that most of these people are going to contract the virus INSIDE an HVAC building
Nursing home in Seattle a perfect case in point
Those people were not going outside
Plenty of people in FL are in assisted living, senior facilities
Some small in-home groups
They also might be living on their own
The woman who has house across from ours in FL is in her 90s, lives alone, and has outlived most of her family....she has no safety net to fall back on if she becomes ill but to go to hospital...

And there are plenty of Snow Birds who came to FL for the winter before this virus was big deal and they are likely going to still drive home
That usually happens around Easter
They have a 3-6 mo lease on a condo or home and they don’t have the luxury of being in quarantine if their lease is out
Having large number of transient population (even if they come yearly for the winter) means that they don’’t have family or maybe friends who would be willing to help take care of them if they fall ill...
Going to put great burden on the public safety net

Last edited by loves2read; 03-11-2020 at 07:44 AM..
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:46 AM
 
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The death rate is skewed because it hit a assisted living place in WA and that was horrible. Nothing you can do about that. I suspect the death rate to come down to flu level in a few weeks and this whole thing will start being more relaxed. I really think we are going nuts in some parts of the country. Here in Pittsburgh it is VERY mellow and grocery stores to my knowledge aren't effected at all. No one seems to care.
The rate is skewed because we have NOT TESTED enough people to have a balance between infected and dead...
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