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Old 01-21-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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Great article on re-developing 2 million square feet of commercial office space.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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Yes. There are plenty of people with imagination in the world. There are plenty of people with money in the world. There are not many people with both in Savannah.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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I was in Savannah right after New Year's and had the opportunity to drop into Savannah Mall. It was so depressing.

They had partitioned off about half of Burlington, and even in the half that was left for shopping, things were spread very thin and the place was dead on a Friday afternoon. I don't see that situation continuing for long, since I'm sure Burlington is still paying rent on that unoccupied half. AC Moore seemed to be in liquidation. I'm guessing 65-70% of the smaller store spaces between the anchors are unoccupied, leading to long walks between the stores that are left. 2/3 of the escalators are turned off, and the busiest place I saw (other than Target) was the health club/gym at the Target/Burlington end...likely because of the New Year's resolution people (in other words: temporary). I didn't even bother walking down to Dillard's, since that was one of my favorite stores when I lived in Savannah and I...wanted to remember it the way it used to be.

I'm of the mind that the best solution for that mall is a big wrecking ball. Relocate the few anchor stores who are willing to move (Dillards at O-Mall's Sears space, maybe Target to the old KMart) and sell the land to one or more developers who might sub-divide it. Timing was never on this mall's side.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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I wonder if Georgia Southern is still interested. Armstrong was very interested in it for awhile after they bought the Publix shopping center.

Dillard's to Sears is a great idea. If Target goes anywhere it will end up in Pooler along with Bass Pro. They both have been looking out there for awhile. Target seems to have so money issues with expansion. Bass Pro slowed down after they acquired Cabella.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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I worked a TV shoot in Savannah Mall over 2 days back in November. Unfortunately I think that’s their main source of income nowadays.
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:35 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I worked a TV shoot in Savannah Mall over 2 days back in November. Unfortunately I think that’s their main source of income nowadays.
Then how about a movie studio?

This is what became of the long-moribund Shannon Mall in suburban Atlanta.

"In Early 2016 the Atlanta Metro Studios opened for business on the site of the former Shannon Mall. Atlanta Metro Studios has the two largest purpose-built sound stages in North America. The largest purpose-built stage is 80,000 square feet with a 40' clear height. The second largest purpose-built stage is 55,000 square feet with 40' clear height. Because of the unique configuration of these two enormous stages, they can be subdivided into smaller stages by closing multiple operable sound-proof walls. There is the ability to have as many as 6 smaller stages at one time: (4) 20,000 sq ft and (2) 27,500 sq ft."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_..._redevelopment
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Savannah, GA
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I think the days of big malls as we know them are coming to an end; have been heading that way for a few years now and not just in Savannah but nationwide IMO.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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I've seen discussions about similar situations in other cities the size of Savannah that have multiple malls. Locals speak of how one mall will remain successful, while the other one (or two) will lose favor, and over time go out of business. It's never quick or obvious--the mall that loses out will drift into irrelevancy over many years (like SavMall has). I guess it means that the Savannah Mall/Oglethorpe Mall situation is not unique. There will probably always be a certain number of people who like mall shopping, but not the (large) number of the 1980s and 1990s, so having one mall in a given area might be all that can be supported.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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I've seen discussions about similar situations in other cities the size of Savannah that have multiple malls. Locals speak of how one mall will remain successful, while the other one (or two) will lose favor, and over time go out of business. It's never quick or obvious--the mall that loses out will drift into irrelevancy over many years (like SavMall has). I guess it means that the Savannah Mall/Oglethorpe Mall situation is not unique. There will probably always be a certain number of people who like mall shopping, but not the (large) number of the 1980s and 1990s, so having one mall in a given area might be all that can be supported.
Happened in my hometown in Ohio, the smaller mall closed in 2005, the bigger mall now is about to go under as it has lost 2 of the 4 main department stores, & 25% of the stores are vacant.

Malls have to re-invent themselves as the center of town.

The biggest mistake was letting the county build a library which wasn't connected to the mall. Would have driven foot traffic.

If you owned the Savannah Mall would it be better to change part of the mall over to office space? If you could have 300 full time people working in these spaces, would it help the food court?

Would it be better to bring more food businesses in?

Music studio space?

Art studio space?
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Old 01-23-2019, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Savannah, GA
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Talk about stores in general, I am kind of surprised there isn't an Apple store around (not that I personally need it, but figure they would do well) and only one Best Buy.

Let's face it, aside from major anchor stores in malls, most small stores are just worthless. Some random shoe places, nail salons, Sleep Number bed store, etc. if i need something from say Macy's (once in a blue moon), i just go straight there bypassing all the junky shops. There are also so many online shopping options; sites that offer something a bit more unique, especially combined with a much larger inventory than most brick and mortar stores carry (no brainer there I suppose) that its hard to justify wanting to go to the mall, deal with parking, crowds, etc. and still walk away disappointed.
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