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Old 06-01-2019, 10:56 PM
 
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It's sad to see how much trees Western Chatham has lost over the years...
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Around 40 years ago, it was a small town of around 2,000 people. Census data from 2017 puts that number right below 24,000.

Shopping centers, businesses, cul-de-sacs, grocery stores and hundreds of other developments appear regularly on city council and planning agendas.

But all growth, be it commercial, residential or industrial, is usually preceded by the clearing of land and the trees growing there.

In 2014, Chatham County officials reviewed a tree loss analysis from Colorado-based company Plan-It Geo, funded by a grant from the Savannah Tree Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to preserving, protecting and planting canopy trees in Savannah and Chatham County.

The study found the county had been losing the equivalent of three football fields of trees every day from 1999 to 2014. Most of that loss came from the western side of the county — Port Wentworth, Bloomingdale and Pooler -- where developers razed pine plantations as well as natural hardwood forests to make way for houses, parking lots, warehouses and businesses.
https://www.savannahnow.com/news/201...opy-fades-away
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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It's sad to see how much trees Western Chatham has lost over the years...

https://www.savannahnow.com/news/201...opy-fades-away
If you guys think Savannah is bad, you should see the aerial view over Metro Atlanta. It ain't pretty. I can't even begin to imagine how many trees have been lost over the years in North Georgia.
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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If you guys think Savannah is bad, you should see the aerial view over Metro Atlanta. It ain't pretty. I can't even begin to imagine how many trees have been lost over the years in North Georgia.
Lots of Atlanta 'burbs are actually green and leafy. No one would say they are all perfectly planned, all of Mother Nature perfectly preserved, but even with all the highways there's no comparison with suburban Savannah. Savannah's suburbs in the 1960s (which then meant the Southside) were largely green, even between the newer subdivisions. Chatham County has since embraced a different model: the blandest and most de-natured utilitarian suburban sprawl you'll find anywhere. Pooler, which has largely expanded in the last 15 years, is a prime example. It is a suburban example of what not to do. Cobb and Gwinnett Counties, which I've seen on multiple visits, do much better.
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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I don’t get the big deal about the trees in Pooler. The very venerable trees are protected, which i totally agree with, and the tree fund allows for strategic replacement of the trees that are removed. As someone said in the article, old trees are repositioned according to a plan.

A tree is like any other plant. It grows back. I prefer this to places like Beaufort, SC, where some shopping center parking lots are built around the live oaks. The pavement is a roller coaster of roots, and the enormous limbs over the cars are like impending death.
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Old 06-02-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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A tree is like any other plant. It grows back. I prefer this to places like Beaufort, SC, where some shopping center parking lots are built around the live oaks. The pavement is a roller coaster of roots, and the enormous limbs over the cars are like impending death.
Seems there's a middle ground for Pooler, which is a suburb rather than a historic old town like Beaufort. Though Old Pooler dates back to the Civil War, most of what is Pooler today is headed toward a very unsightly future without a plan.
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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If you go back and look at photos of Ardsley Park and Chatham Crescent in the 1910s and 20s, they also clear cut those neighborhoods. 100 years later, trees that have been planted back by the original developers, subsequent home owners, and Mother Nature, replenishing the canopy.

Check out the link to the neighborhood association for some early photos.

History - Ardsley Park Chatham Crescent Neighborhood Association
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:58 PM
 
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If you go back and look at photos of Ardsley Park and Chatham Crescent in the 1910s and 20s, they also clear cut those neighborhoods. 100 years later, trees that have been planted back by the original developers, subsequent home owners, and Mother Nature, replenishing the canopy.

Check out the link to the neighborhood association for some early photos.

History - Ardsley Park Chatham Crescent Neighborhood Association
A faulty comparison between early 20th-century southern town aesthetics and 21st-century southern ex-urban sprawl. Chatham Crescent was actually an extension of the Oglethorpe Plan, which one can easily see from the map. The Crescent 100 years ago was adjacent to Victory Drive, a memorial thoroughfare planned with greenery. And what else could they do with the Crescent at the outset but mostly clear-cut? It was thick woods. Did the City of Savannah go whole-hog unplanned/unregulated and add in strip malls with 7-Elevens and no sidewalks? No, it added vest-pocket parks, medians and borders with azaleas, dogwood and wisteria, and put Savannah High smack at the center. Very different situation -- and regarding Pooler, total wishful thinking.
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Old 06-02-2019, 05:14 PM
 
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A faulty comparison between early 20th-century southern town aesthetics and 21st-century southern ex-urban sprawl. Chatham Crescent was actually an extension of the Oglethorpe Plan, which one can easily see from the map. The Crescent 100 years ago was adjacent to Victory Drive, a memorial thoroughfare planned with greenery. And what else could they do with the Crescent at the outset but mostly clear-cut? It was thick woods. Did the City of Savannah go whole-hog unplanned/unregulated and add in strip malls with 7-Elevens and no sidewalks? No, it added vest-pocket parks, medians and borders with azaleas, dogwood and wisteria, and put Savannah High smack at the center. Very different situation -- and regarding Pooler, total wishful thinking.
Note: I did not compare the city planning or architecture of the two. I was simply illustrating that the trees came back. I’m not trying to argue Pooler is well-planned. Just showing a local example of another area that was clear cut.
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Old 06-02-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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Seems there's a middle ground for Pooler, which is a suburb rather than a historic old town like Beaufort. Though Old Pooler dates back to the Civil War, most of what is Pooler today is headed toward a very unsightly future without a plan.
This is what I disagree with. They have a plan. They operate according to the plan. You can argue against the plan if you want, but it remains to be seen if it works or not.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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When I was visited Savannah in August 2015 I felt a little claustrophobic because of all the trees downtown, in full leaf and dripping Spanish moss. I am from nearer Atlanta and never feel that claustrophobic-tree feeling up here on the Piedmont, because of the hillier terrain. There is a veritable sea of trees outside my window; even in the middle of winter, with all the hardwoods, you can't see the houses for the trees. But in Savannah I realized what a friend from New Mexico had meant when newly arrived in Atlanta -- tree-phobia.

I hate the way developers cut down trees to make way for "development." Don't they know we need trees in order to breathe?
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