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Old 09-09-2019, 07:28 PM
 
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The board recommended approval of a site development master infrastructure plan for The Ryals & Morgan Tracts located near the intersection of Pooler Parkway and S.H. Morgan Parkway.

The 150-acre site will be developed into 80 acres of commercial parcels and about 60 acres of multifamily residential parcels.

A conceptual site plan shown at Monday’s meeting proposes commercial frontage along both sides of Pooler Parkway, with the residential parcels towards the eastern side of the development.

The conceptual plan leaves space for eight small, three medium and one large restaurant; two fuel stations, seven retail parcels and two office spaces.

The residential parcels contain one four-acre assisted living space and two multi-family residential parcels — one of which would be 28.4 acres and the other would be 12 acres.

The site is bordered to the east by the Hardin Canal, undeveloped lands, wetlands and the Garden Acres Mobile Home Park; to the west, it is bordered by Morgan Center Industrial Park.
https://www.savannahnow.com/news/201...se-development
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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More crap development without much thought.
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Old 09-10-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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More crap development without much thought.
What crap development? They just showed a general layout of their plan. I didn't see any businesses listed.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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What crap development? They just showed a general layout of their plan. I didn't see any businesses listed.
Surface lots galore. I’m not talking about a particular business, just the lack of vision and quick and easy approval for the sake of greed.
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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The only thing it says was approved was the infrastructure, roads, water and sewer. Plus everywhere is now surface lots. The only other way to provide enough parking to satisfy they segment that feels there isn't enough parking would be building parking garages which are just a different kind of ugly. I would prefer underground parking but it is extremely expensive. I just don't see what other businesses that will be attracted to the area. Everyone seems to think a city selects businesses, they don't, it is the companies themselves. Even if they were to only allow mom and pop, local businesses, there aren't enough anymore to fill suburban sites. We are lucky to keep the ones we have in the tourist areas downtown. I don't understand how 15 Mexican restaurants find financing and stay in business but we don't see PF Changs, Cheesecake Factory or even Outback to compete in the area. Walmart even owns a second site in Pooler. And Parkers and Enmark are at war with 4 locations each. I would really like to see a business/offices develop in Pooler and SEDA put something at the mega-site instead of putting them out by New Hampstead first.
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Old 09-12-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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Not always, but usually developers go in with code minimum to meet their hurdle rate faster.

GA Survivor is right, I've sat in the Planning Commission and City Council hearings where locals come out to complain there isn't enough parking. But, the developers are providing what the code requires, so there isn't much staff or commissioners can do.

However, I've also seen the City easily accept money into the tree fund, which we now know isn't being used to plant trees.

Pooler is run like it was 40 years ago, but it's really at Marietta levels of sprawl at this point. The City leaders need to hire a firm to revamp the development code. The tree ordinance is weak. 15 trees per acre is not sufficient. They need to go to a points system similar to the County and City of Savannah.

The zoning needs to be updated to incentivize developers to provide street level retail with office/residential above. And this will happen, probably in 50 years when the City is at capacity and redevelopment warrants it. But for now, the ordinances allow for strip centers with minimal landscaping, so that's what they're going to get.

That being said, the City's parking standards are normal for the industry. Pooler doesn't offer any other mode of transportation aside from driving, so parking seems insufficient. That means the City has two options, 1) get on board with CAT, incentivize pedestrian connectivity, add bicycle lanes and require bicycle parking to Pooler Parkway and HWY 80, Pine Barren Road, or 2) increase the parking ratio requirements. The latter in turn only adds more impervious coverage to the City, which in laymen terms is "a sea of asphalt."
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:14 AM
 
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How sad, but the fact is most of the public tolerates hideous developments and don't have an opinion. Until that changes, this sort of development based on a quick profit without long-term thought will continue all over the country. It's a shame what developers, code enforcers and 'planners' have done to this country.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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The players are changing in Pooler this fall. A few councilmen will change and the mayor will change. It will move the status quo a bit.
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