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Old 12-02-2019, 07:12 PM
 
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In the last 3 months, developers in West Chatham County have been seeking annexation of their properties into the city of Savannah. The latest developer seeking such annexation is the owner of Rockingham Farms. They are looking for their 1,036-acre plot on the east side of Veterans Pkwy to be annexed into the city. I suspect they plan on either developing an industrial park or some sort of mixed-use development.

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The City received an annexation petition for two parcels with an aggregate of 1,036.69 acres located on the east side of the Southwest Bypass (Veterans Parkway) in the vicinity of Old Burkhalter Road. The properties are currently owned by Rockingham Farms, LLC. The land under petition is contiguous to existing City territory, and therefore can be annexed by ordinance adopted by City Council. As required by State law, the County has been informed of receipt of this petition.

The land is currently undeveloped and annexation is being sought by the owner to gain access to the municipal services provided by the City. The owner desires to gain access to these services on in-city terms. The cost of providing water and sewer service will be fully covered by connection fees and service fees charged to benefiting parcels in the area parcel.

No action is required at this time other than acknowledgment of petition receipt. Consideration of ordinances to annex the territory and to designate City zoning for the territory will be placed on a future agenda.
Agenda Plus - December 5, 2019 City Council Regular Meeting
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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Hopefully Pooler will soon be hemmed in by other Chatham municipalities. Then, by state law, it can't annex Georgetown. Pooler has been able to "snow" the state gov't like no municipality in the state, gobbling up territory -- and very far from old Main Street and Sangrina Woods, let me tell you. No other city in the state has managed to gain so much inhabited area in the last 20 years. Totally by design. Or perhaps conspiracy. The county gov't was totally fine with Pooler's large-scale annexations because it would limit annexation by Savannah and totally stop godless Savannah-Chatham consolidation.
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Old 12-03-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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What annexations are you talking about? Pooler hasn't annexed any large areas since 2007. They actually deannexed the mega site in 2016 to help development, which hasn't worked. The Pooler conspiracy stories are ridiculous. Savannah is swallowing up thousands of acres but that is okay but Pooler is the giant evil that wants Georgetown? Why would they want Georgetown anyway?
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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What annexations are you talking about? Pooler hasn't annexed any large areas since 2007. They actually deannexed the mega site in 2016 to help development, which hasn't worked. The Pooler conspiracy stories are ridiculous. Savannah is swallowing up thousands of acres but that is okay but Pooler is the giant evil that wants Georgetown? Why would they want Georgetown anyway?
If much of Pooler's Grand Scheme goes back to the previous decade, that's only because Savannah has recently stymied it by annexing land tracts in West Chatham. I believe that Pooler had plans for all of West Chatham, including Southwest. Pooler wanted to be the second major player in Chatham. As a large white, Republican enclave, it could now (1) prevent consolidation of Savannah and unincorporated Chatham and (2) limit the expansion of public transportation outside Savannah. Pooler has tripled its territory in the 21st century. What other city in Georgia has done that? Not one. What did it take? A lot: signoffs from Chatham County (largely white and Republican) and from the statehouse (largely white and Republican). Pooler has spread its little jellyfish tentacles from Main St. and Sangrina Woods to south of Quacco Road. Now it's a giant squid.
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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If much of Pooler's Grand Scheme goes back to the previous decade, that's only because Savannah has recently stymied it by annexing land tracts in West Chatham. I believe that Pooler had plans for all of West Chatham, including Southwest. Pooler wanted to be the second major player in Chatham. As a large white, Republican enclave, it could now (1) prevent consolidation of Savannah and unincorporated Chatham and (2) limit the expansion of public transportation outside Savannah. Pooler has tripled its territory in the 21st century. What other city in Georgia has done that? Not one. What did it take? A lot: signoffs from Chatham County (largely white and Republican) and from the statehouse (largely white and Republican). Pooler has spread its little jellyfish tentacles from Main St. and Sangrina Woods to south of Quacco Road. Now it's a giant squid.
LOL ... your tin-foil hat is a little tight don't you think?

Pooler and West Chatham are nowhere near as "white" and "Republican" as you want them to be. That would be Effingham County. And PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT has been the driving force in the growth of Pooler and all of West Chatham over the past two decades. And it's no different than the suburban sprawl growth that's taken place in cities ALL OVER the Southeast. It would have happened with or without Pooler, because that was the only area of Chatham County were such large-scale development could go.

Pooler a giant squid?! You've obviously never actually LOOKED at a map of the Pooler city limits have you? Well ... here you go!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Po...!4d-81.2470574

And here's the SAVANNAH city limits map ...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sa...9!4d-81.091203

But this color-coded map of Savannah's more than 100 "neighborhoods" occupying ALL FOUR CORNERS OF CHATHAM COUNTY really tells the story!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ghborhoods.jpg

NOW ... which one is the GIANT SQUID again?
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Old 12-06-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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LOL ... your tin-foil hat is a little tight don't you think?

Pooler and West Chatham are nowhere near as "white" and "Republican" as you want them to be. That would be Effingham County. And PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT has been the driving force in the growth of Pooler and all of West Chatham over the past two decades. And it's no different than the suburban sprawl growth that's taken place in cities ALL OVER the Southeast. It would have happened with or without Pooler, because that was the only area of Chatham County were such large-scale development could go.

Pooler a giant squid?! You've obviously never actually LOOKED at a map of the Pooler city limits have you? Well ... here you go!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Po...!4d-81.2470574

And here's the SAVANNAH city limits map ...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sa...9!4d-81.091203

But this color-coded map of Savannah's more than 100 "neighborhoods" occupying ALL FOUR CORNERS OF CHATHAM COUNTY really tells the story!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ghborhoods.jpg

NOW ... which one is the GIANT SQUID again?
The Giant Squid might be more diverse today, but that wasn't true decades ago. Again: the Squid's plans date back to the 1990s, when Pooler was a postage-stamp-sized white enclave on two sides of Main St. and the county gov't was white, too, and both were in cahoots to stop consolidation. (It's an issue in white Chatham, as your Marsh Isle neighbors proved last year with their raucous, pitchfork town meetings. Such a disgrace.) The Squid also wished to thwart Savannah priorities like public trans. None of this is news except for News. The City of Savannah got wise: They bought up tracts and have encouraged development so that people actually live there (esp. in City of Savannah areas near Pooler and the airport). Pooler can't annex Georgetown. It's pretty brilliant when you think about it.

While I have you: What say you about Savannah's new mayor winning the runoff by a margin of thousands of votes? And Mr. Tony's defeat on the Southside? I have no idea what's up here. With the Squid, though, I know exactly which murky waters it swims in.
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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While I have you: What say you about Savannah's new mayor winning the runoff by a margin of thousands of votes? And Mr. Tony's defeat on the Southside? I have no idea what's up here. With the Squid, though, I know exactly which murky waters it swims in.
Nobody knows what to make of it yet ... and if they say they do they are lying. I don’t know a single keen observer of Savannah politics (whether they be newspeople, politicians, activists or plain old citizen Joes) who will admit they saw any of this coming. What most agree on is this: Just two members of the Savannah City Council (mayor-elect Van Johnson and alderwoman Estella Shabazz) are returning to office. The other 7 alderman aren’t just new to council, they are all new to politics. The learning curve for this council is going to be long and painful. It could be a year (or more) before they have enough experience and understanding of how a manager-council government works to begin tackling any of the big issues with any kind of confidence. Throwing out all the incumbents “just because” can have seriously negative consequences. This election could end up backfiring on the voters in a huge way.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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Agreed, Newsboy. This new council has a lot to learn in a short period of time. I hope they're already hitting the books, so to speak. Savannah can hardly afford a herd of cats messing up the show. And, to think that we'd hang our hopes on the likes of Estella Shabazz to get folks up to speed is honestly a little off-putting. Johnson really has his work cut out for him.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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@News and CG: Thanks so much. Trying to read between the lines of the Sav'h Morning News is rough. First: "Scorched Earth" Shabazz is the sole Council incumbent who ran unopposed in her district. Second: Johnson being one of only two Council votes against moving the Waving Girl statue (it will move). Tony's peccadilloes contributing to his loss -- or did they? -- when before, his effective work for his Southside district had reelected him again and again (this according to several Savannah Forum regulars). I give up.
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