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If the universe is infinte then every instance of possibility will have already occured and is in constant repetition. On the other side of the argument is that possibilities are infinate. There is also the thought that it is both. Recognising when a new instance is occuring is impossible since we don't know the extent of the universe that we live in. If we could catalog every instance as it occured in a linear pattern, would we see a predictable pattern that we could extrapalate and be able to plot what will happen in the future.
If we could do this would we be able influence what would happen or would the event occur regardless or would it only alter events afterwards?
I realize that these thoughts are only a mental exercise and have no definative answer considering our own limited knowledge of this place we call the universe.
My choice is that we are in a repetative cycle.
I wish I could understand more than 1/4 of it......
Even though most people interested in this do not consider the Bible, I do, and there are some verses which really do give repetitive cycle theory a reason for deeper study.
I realize that these thoughts are only a mental exercise and have no definative answer considering our own limited knowledge of this place we call the universe.
My choice is that we are in a repetitive cycle.
This subject would probably be more suitable over on the Religion and Philosophy forum. Regardless, you say, "My choice is that we are in a repetative cycle." Repetitive in what way?
If the universe is infinte then every instance of possibility will have already occured and is in constant repetition. On the other side of the argument is that possibilities are infinate. There is also the thought that it is both. Recognising when a new instance is occuring is impossible since we don't know the extent of the universe that we live in. If we could catalog every instance as it occured in a linear pattern, would we see a predictable pattern that we could extrapalate and be able to plot what will happen in the future.
If we could do this would we be able influence what would happen or would the event occur regardless or would it only alter events afterwards?
I realize that these thoughts are only a mental exercise and have no definative answer considering our own limited knowledge of this place we call the universe.
My choice is that we are in a repetative cycle.
It might be like Pi; so far, no one has seen a pattern.
If we're in a repetitive cycle, my analysis indicates that you posted this 18 minutes late because you posted this 69 trillion to the 69 trillion power years ago and 69 trillion to the 69 trillion power years before that; this time it was 69 trillion to the 69 trillion power years plus 18 minutes.
If we're in a repetitive cycle, my analysis indicates that you posted this 18 minutes late because you posted this 69 trillion to the 69 trillion power years ago and 69 trillion to the 69 trillion power years before that; this time it was 69 trillion to the 69 trillion power years plus 18 minutes.
Proof that the expansion of the universe is slowing and we will eventually go through another Big Bang.
We don't know which infinity it is. Infinity has many different values and permutations.
For example, the number of points on a line is ∞, and the number of lines on a plane is ∞, so therefore the number of points on a plane is ∞-squared, and the number points in a solid is ∞-cubed, all of which are different values.
If the universe is infinite, with a dimension of ∞, there remain an infinite number of possibilities and permutations that are not within the limited dimensions of that ∞. Those would be the events that have not happened during the infinite life of an infinite universe.
If the duration of time in the universe is linear, it would cover only ∞ permutations of events, and not the ∞^2 of a plane, nor the ∞^3 of a solid.
We don't know which infinity it is. Infinity has many different values and permutations.
For example, the number of points on a line is ∞, and the number of lines on a plane is ∞, so therefore the number of points on a plane is ∞-squared, and the number points in a solid is ∞-cubed, all of which are different values.
If the universe is infinite, with a dimension of ∞, there remain an infinite number of possibilities and permutations that are not within the limited dimensions of that ∞. Those would be the events that have not happened during the infinite life of an infinite universe.
If the duration of time in the universe is linear, it would cover only ∞ permutations of events, and not the ∞^2 of a plane, nor the ∞^3 of a solid.
Infinity is not a number. An infinite set is a set with and infinite amount of elements. An infinite set with all the real numbers(an infinite set itself) taken out of it is still an infinite set. An infinite set with all the odd elements removed is still an infinite set.
∞ == ∞^2 == ∞^3..... They are equinumerous.
What is so interesting about the universe to me is given the huge distance of our visible universe, it seems to be quite uniform. The idea of it being infinite (suppose it somehow loops in time and space back onto itself) makes more sense than it being finite.
This subject would probably be more suitable over on the Religion and Philosophy forum. Regardless, you say, "My choice is that we are in a repetative cycle." Repetitive in what way?
Haven't checked back on the thread for a few days, but I say repetitive in the way the laws of physics allows the universe to act within these basic principles such as a single celled organism to replicate itself for billions of years exactly the same way without change. It is an exact copy of the original organism. In this way it has expressed all its variations and reached a point where it no longer changes but remains the same and only replicates itself. Another example is a solar system. Each one is unique but they operate in the same physical reality of the universe. The same forces act on each one in the same way. Each one is an instance of variation but still even the new ones that are being formed are governed by the same laws that govern the entire universe. So even though they are new they are the same.
There are too many variables and too much randomness to predict any uniformity or repetitability.
(Retroit's 1st Law of Repetitability. )
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