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Old 08-18-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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The evidence of a universe billions of years old is anywhere you look. On the contrary, what evidence do you have for a six thousand year old Sun, moon, stars, earth... you name it?
The distance the earth is from the moon....the amount of dust on the moon, amount of salt in the sea.

Those are just a few.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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The distance the earth is from the moon....the amount of dust on the moon, amount of salt in the sea.

Those are just a few.
That is like saying... the amount of water in the oceans prove the earth is no more than 2500 years old.

Still, with such information (and, I dare call it, "logic") you believe in, combined with the fact that the moon is moving away from earth at about an inch/year, could you elaborate on your claim of everything being no more than 6000 years old, including the nearby, but millions of light years away, galaxies?
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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That is like saying... the amount of water in the oceans prove the earth is no more than 2500 years old.

Still, with such information (and, I dare call it, "logic") you believe in, combined with the fact that the moon is moving away from earth at about an inch/year, could you elaborate on your claim of everything being no more than 6000 years old, including the nearby, but millions of light years away, galaxies?
I'm not sure what you are asking here....do you mean why is stuff so far apart out in deep space? Because it was created that way?

We do know the earth and moon were apparently next to each other not to long ago...or they were created nearby not to long ago, as they are currently moving apart at an inch or two per year.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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I'm not sure what you are asking here....do you mean why is stuff so far apart out in deep space? Because it was created that way?
And it takes a lot more than 6000 years for the light to get here.

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We do know the earth and moon were next to each other not to long ago, as they are currently moving apart at an inch or two per year.
Yep, about 4.5 billion years ago. How far do you think the moon was 6000 years ago?
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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And it takes a lot more than 6000 years for the light to get here.
Assuming that the speed of light is constant, and that it was not created "in transit".
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Yep, about 4.5 billion years ago. How far do you think the moon was 6000 years ago?
I'm relatively certain that it moving an inch at a time means that it's closer to 6000 years than 4.5 billion years. or 14 billion or whatever the current number is that "scientists" claim.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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Assuming that the speed of light is constant, and that it was not created "in transit".
How much the speed of light must vary to drop the age down to 6000 years? And what is this "in transit" thing you're speaking of? You do realize that Andromeda isn't receding but approaching, no?

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I'm relatively certain that it moving an inch at a time means that it's closer to 6000 years than 4.5 billion years. or 14 billion or whatever the current number is that "scientists" claim.
What is the basis of that certainty you claim?
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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How much the speed of light must vary to drop the age down to 6000 years? And what is this "in transit" thing you're speaking of? You do realize that Andromeda isn't receding but approaching, no?


What is the basis of that certainty you claim?
14.5 billion or 4.5 billion or whatever is a long time.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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14.5 billion or 4.5 billion or whatever is a long time.
Yes it is. The signature of a long time is all over the universe. The idea of 6000 years, however... Besides, Science would have an easier time if it weren't that far back in time. Heck, even the Hindu lunar calendar goes back to over 5000 years (I believe widely used in South and South East Asia).

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Old 08-18-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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HOw do we know that the speed of light in a vacuum is constant? We've measured it - repeatedly:



Even if you use the maxium measurement error, you cannot get turn 13.7 billion years into 6,000. The universe is VERY old.
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Old 08-19-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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HOw do we know that the speed of light in a vacuum is constant? We've measured it - repeatedly:



Even if you use the maxium measurement error, you cannot get turn 13.7 billion years into 6,000. The universe is VERY old.
How do you know it's been that way for the last 4.5 billion years?
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