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Old 06-21-2016, 07:37 PM
 
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I already read up on this weeks ago. They have to first see if it's even safe for humans to consume. LOL

1st clinical trial set for ‘anti-aging compound’

Clinical Trials in Japan are conducted much less stringently than those conducted here in the US. Even Japanese pharmaceutical companies prefer to run their Clinical Trials in Europe or the US.

Japanese pharmaceutical companies frequently focus efforts to develop their most promising drugs outside of Japan, typically in Europe and the United States



Again for the UMPTEENTH time. Age slowing does not = the ability to live forever.

Do you understand the difference between age slowing process vs. living forever?
Of course not. I never said it did. This is only part of bridge 2 that will get is to bridge 3. The nanotech revolution.
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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Yes and I and yes I get it. You just give more credit to peer reviewed then I do and on that topic we will never agree.
I does not matter to me what you want to believe. I am just trying to help you understand the world of science.

Peer Review is very important. It's how we scrutinize scientists who make claims. It's how we stop pseudo-science from being claimed as science. That being said, peer review is not the one true solution for all time, and given the ever-increasing digitization of scientific communication, it would be foolish to think that no better solution can ever emerge to the problem of filtering scientific information.

Scrutinizing science: Peer review

I agree with everything this former Nature editor is saying.

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I believe that the impressive rate of scientific progress over the past few decades is in part a tribute to the effectiveness of the current peer review system. The bar for any new alternative should thus be set fairly high. I suggest that any new system should meet the following criteria:
  • It must be reliable - it must predict the significance of a paper with a level of accuracy comparable to or better than the current journal system.
  • It must produce a recommendation that is easily digestible, allowing busy scientists to make quick decisions about what to read. A nuanced commentary on the merits and demerits of each paper may be valuable to experts who have already read the paper (see contribution to this debate by Koonin et al. ), but it will not help much with the initial screening.
  • It must be economical, not only in terms of direct costs such as web operations, but also in terms of reviewer time invested.
  • It must work fast. The peer review system produces clear-cut decisions relatively quickly (in part because editors pester reviewers to deliver their reports), whereas many forms of communal assessment - such as the emergence of a statistically significant pattern of citations or expert recommendations - are likely to be slow and gradual by comparison. Perhaps a popularity index (for example a 'most emailed' list) would provide a quick readout, but there is a danger of runaway amplification - the so-called 'Matthew effect', recognized by Robert Merton almost 40 years ago4 and likely to be exacerbated in the era of digital communication
  • It must be resistant to 'gaming' by authors. Of course, savvy authors already know how to work the current system, but the separation of powers between editors and anonymous reviewers does - I believe - preserve some integrity to the process. After ten years as an editor, one thing I feel sure of is that if any alternative system becomes influential in determining career success, authors will seek ways to manipulate it to their advantage
Quality and value: The true purpose of peer review
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Of course not. I never said it did. This is only part of bridge 2 that will get is to bridge 3. The nanotech revolution.
Nanotechnology is old news...it's been around since the 80's. The things we have been able to do with Nanotechnology is very cool and so is CRISPR.
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:54 PM
 
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As I posted I get why sometimes peer reviewed is needed you just place more importance on it then me and we will never agree.

Nanotech has been around but not to the degree it will be post 2030 or the nanotech revolution.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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As I posted I get why sometimes peer reviewed is needed you just place more importance on it then me and we will never agree.
I place more importance on it compared to what? You are being vague here.

More importance on it to weed out pseudo-science? Because that's really the only importance I place on it.

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Nanotech has been around but not to the degree it will be post 2030 or the nanotech revolution.
Can you define what you mean buy Nanotech revolution?

There are no revolutions in science only major breakthroughs and discoveries. You know the kind of discoveries that earn the Nobel Laureate a Nobel Prize.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:08 PM
 
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This is a good article that explains the nanotech revolution.

The Nanotechnology Revolution - The New Atlantis
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:36 PM
 
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This is a good article that explains the nanotech revolution.

The Nanotechnology Revolution - The New Atlantis
Don't get duped by the Title of an News Article written by a NON-Scientist in 2003.

Adam Keiper BIO

BTW: The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, in its 2006 review of the National Nanotechnology Initiative, argues that it is difficult to predict the future capabilities of nanotechnology.

Don't you find it interesting that the only people who don't appreciate peer review are those who are not scientists? Interesting how that pans out.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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Now here is a current peer reviewed published paper on some interesting Medical uses of nanotechnology.

Nanotechnology in medicine

Here is another current peer reviewed published paper discussing the latest application using nanotechnology in Medicine.

DELIVERY OF PHARMACEUTICS TO BONE: NANOTECHNOLOGIES, HIGH-THROUGHPUT PROCESSING AND IN SILICO MATHEMATICAL MODELS
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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Now wait 14 years as it will revolutionize medicine.
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:43 PM
 
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Now wait 14 years as it will revolutionize medicine.
LOL It already has. We are way past that stage.

It's been around since the 80's and you really don't think there are some very revolutionary applications that are already being used in Medicine today?

I suggest you read those two papers I posted. The first one is an easy read.
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:53 PM
 
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LOL It already has. We are way past that stage.

It's been around since the 80's and you really don't think there are some very revolutionary applications that are already being used in Medicine today?

I suggest you read those two papers I posted. The first one is an easy read.
I looked at them. My point is by the 2030's it will be thousands of times more advanced then now and that is why we will merge with it and its impact on medicine will be profound. Then it will be the third bridge and will get us to the 4th bridge.
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