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Old 11-10-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The question ( what was before: the chicken or the egg ? )
is very old and doesn’t have answer.
Therefore I will ask a simpler question:
What was before: the ‘big bang’ or the vacuum?

If time goes both backwards and forwards for infinity and all random interactions occur for infinity, then everything we are doing probably happened before, maybe 10^10^10^10^10 years ago. This post may have been typed eons ago and now again.
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The question ( what was before: the chicken or the egg ? )
is very old and doesn’t have answer.
Therefore I will ask a simpler question:
What was before: the ‘big bang’ or the vacuum?
Where did you get the idea that there was a vacuum?
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Israel
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Where did you get the idea that there was a vacuum?
Looking at space between billions and billions Galaxies.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Looking at space between billions and billions Galaxies.
That's not a vacuum. There are still a few atoms of hydrogen per cubic centimeter, even in the most remote known areas of outer space. Even if there is only one atom between two galaxies, it's not a vacuum.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Israel
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That's not a vacuum.
There are still a few atoms of hydrogen per cubic centimeter,
even in the most remote known areas of outer space.
Even if there is only one atom between two galaxies, it's not a vacuum.
According to modern cosmology
Vacuum keeps ( more than 97% ) so- called unseen dark matter / energy.
The question is:
How can the more than 97% of dark matter / energy
create the visual material world ?

The vice versa question:
‘How can the visual material world create vacuum?’ is anecdote.
==.
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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How does this thread even stay in this forum?
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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How can the more than 97% of dark matter / energy
create the visual material world ?
Gravity pulls things together. Dark Energy is thought to be what causes the expansion of space.
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:56 AM
 
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How does this thread even stay in this forum?
Good point. Seems to be presented more in line with philosophy and religion than it does science and technology.
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Looking at space between billions and billions Galaxies.
Are you implying those are black holes?
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Israel
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Gravity pulls things together.
Dark Energy is thought to be what causes the expansion of space.
Excuse me master.
The gravitation cannot keep tougher even the mass of one single Galaxy. (!)
This fact was reason that astrophysics invented ‘ dark matter’.
BTW,
It is not bad thing if a scientific engineer (!) sometime
would think about philosophy of science. (!)
=====.
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