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Old 03-22-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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This is high tech perverted.......

"An investigative reporter reveals that the NSA has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls. "

Exposed: Massive New Spy Center Built to Track Your Emails and Phone Calls | | AlterNet

The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) | Threat Level | Wired.com
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:24 PM
 
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If you're not a criminal why care? If the feds want to listen to my insightful banter with otheres on the phone they better drinlk some extra coffee 'cause they are going to be bored to death.,
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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If you're not a criminal why care? If the feds want to listen to my insightful banter with otheres on the phone they better drinlk some extra coffee 'cause they are going to be bored to death.,
Do you think that the NSA boring themselves to tears reading your e-mails or listening to your phone calls is an appropriate or efficient use of taxpayer dollars?
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:03 PM
 
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Oh Nooooo I'm doomed.

They will learn that I am the long lost relative of a Nigerian Prince in a plane crash My cover will be blown.....
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:29 PM
 
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If you're not a criminal why care? If the feds want to listen to my insightful banter with otheres on the phone they better drinlk some extra coffee 'cause they are going to be bored to death.,
You're just not very imaginative. How many of your posts, e-mails, or texts would you be cool with being revealed to your boss, your family, your significant other, or anyone else for that matter. I mean, even if you're a good employee or a faithful spouse, that stuff is just fodder for trouble. Get in a dispute with the Feds for any reason, tick off the wrong politician in the public eye, and suddenly one of your more embarrassing posts could wind up splashed across the six o'clock news. Heck, I don't write anything scandalous, but I certainly don't want my thoughts offered up to the world for perusal, either.

Here's the thing. You are basically shrugging your shoulders at the Federal Government arrogating to itself the right to read your private correspondence. I just happen to take my civil liberties a little more seriously than you apparently do.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:17 PM
 
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Oh Nooooo I'm doomed.

They will learn that I am the long lost relative of a Nigerian Prince in a plane crash My cover will be blown.....
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If you're not a criminal why care? If the feds want to listen to my insightful banter with otheres on the phone they better drinlk some extra coffee 'cause they are going to be bored to death.,
Attitudes like these scare the crap out of me.

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Old 03-23-2012, 12:50 AM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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I hope Big Brother is reading this:

Get out of my computer!

I don't want the Feds to know every dirty little thing I do online! I don't want them to know the angry exchange I had with a bank, talking about how Fannie Mae can kiss my you-know-what because their rules for lending are draconian for condos. I don't want them to know all the websites my wife goes to to watch her Japanese TV dramas (ironically all Korean with Japanese subtitles). I don't want them to know the exchanges between my brothers and I about our dad's third marriage.

Basically, giving up the right to privacy is akin to giving up the right to lead a normal life. I don't want to cruise the web and one day be landed in jail just because i got irate over some dumb law passed by some chimp those dumb southern hicks elected to Congress. And I don't want my taxpayer dollars to go towards building and STAFFING these things. Oh lordy imagine the number of PEOPLE they will need to employ to sift through the data and invent new code breaking.

I will grant these should be built as intended, to intercept FOREIGN communication. You know, be spies. Not spies against your own people.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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I hope Big Brother is reading this:

Get out of my computer!

I don't want the Feds to know every dirty little thing I do online! I don't want them to know the angry exchange I had with a bank, talking about how Fannie Mae can kiss my you-know-what because their rules for lending are draconian for condos. I don't want them to know all the websites my wife goes to to watch her Japanese TV dramas (ironically all Korean with Japanese subtitles). I don't want them to know the exchanges between my brothers and I about our dad's third marriage.

Basically, giving up the right to privacy is akin to giving up the right to lead a normal life. I don't want to cruise the web and one day be landed in jail just because i got irate over some dumb law passed by some chimp those dumb southern hicks elected to Congress. And I don't want my taxpayer dollars to go towards building and STAFFING these things. Oh lordy imagine the number of PEOPLE they will need to employ to sift through the data and invent new code breaking.

I will grant these should be built as intended, to intercept FOREIGN communication. You know, be spies. Not spies against your own people.
Do you really think you are that important that the NSA will read every email you send, every video your wife watches or what you and your brothers talked about your father?

As far as the number of staffers used to sift though the data you have heard about mainframe computers and what they can be used for, haven't you?

It's the little privately owned companies who supply demographics to the marketing companies I'm concerned over.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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Does the NSA not already have the countries biggest spy center? I would have guessed they did. I bet the CIA does not like to be one-uped - the competiton is on!! I bet CIA Director Petraeus heard about it and said "oh, hell no..." and called up his homies on the budget committee and said "I'm gonna need a couple billion dollars." And they said "Okay, Dave. We still on for golf this Wednesday?"

I've assumed a while ago that everything online or sent via email or through the airwaves is monitored by computer programs screening for key words. I'll be sure to use innocuous vocabulary and code words when I start the revol...
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:09 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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Do you really think you are that important that the NSA will read every email you send, every video your wife watches or what you and your brothers talked about your father?

As far as the number of staffers used to sift though the data you have heard about mainframe computers and what they can be used for, haven't you?

It's the little privately owned companies who supply demographics to the marketing companies I'm concerned over.
Let me ask you:

Are YOU ok with having the government intercept and decrypt and analyze every bit of information that exists in your home and what you transmit and receive? Let's say you mockingly joke "Allah ackbar!" to some internet troll who hates Muslims. That's a red flag. So is joking about killing Americans (not great or tasteful jokes, but still).

These are all red flags and they are all innocuous and innocent in nature. Yet they will trigger analysis. That is what I'm concerned about.
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