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Old 04-20-2012, 09:48 PM
 
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to believe that the lies/misrepresentations of studies has increased over the years.

Seems the allmighty buck is what rules the scientific community these days.

"Scientific fraud has always been with us. But as stated or suggested by some scientists, journal editors, and a few studies, the amount of scientific 'cheating' has far outpaced the expansion of science itself. According to some, the financial incentives to 'cut corners' have never been greater, resulting in record numbers of retractions from prestigious journals. From the article: 'For example, the journal Nature reported that published retractions had increased tenfold over the past decade, while the number of published papers had increased by just 44 percent.'"



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/sc...pagewanted=all
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:15 AM
 
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Too many people attempt to place scientists on a pedestal like they aren't human, at least those that agree with their own opinions. Politics and the drive for the almighty dollar plays a huge role in the scientific community and anyone that thinks otherwise is being naive. If you have grant money for research and your research shows "nothing to see here" it's in your best interest to find something to see or you're going to lose your funding.

The worse part about such fraud is there is a ripple effect because most research is built upon the work of others.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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A retraction isn't necessarily indicative of outright fraud, it can also indicate that a scientist was fooled by encouraging results and failed to prove their results fully. It's good to work by the motto "never trust good results", but if you're busy confirming results and get scooped by a sloppier scientist no one will care that you took the time to do it correctly. The incentive structure for scientists is such that being first is far more important than being right.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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A retraction isn't necessarily indicative of outright fraud, it can also indicate that a scientist was fooled by encouraging results and failed to prove their results fully. It's good to work by the motto "never trust good results", but if you're busy confirming results and get scooped by a sloppier scientist no one will care that you took the time to do it correctly. The incentive structure for scientists is such that being first is far more important than being right.
Just like politicians.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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A retraction isn't necessarily indicative of outright fraud, it can also indicate that a scientist was fooled by encouraging results and failed to prove their results fully. It's good to work by the motto "never trust good results", but if you're busy confirming results and get scooped by a sloppier scientist no one will care that you took the time to do it correctly. The incentive structure for scientists is such that being first is far more important than being right.
Excuses, wish our military got away with BS like this.......
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