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Old 05-21-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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The failure of a single electronic part in any military plane could pose safety and national security risks and imposes higher costs on the Pentagon, the report said.

Vast numbers of counterfeit Chinese electronic parts are being used in US military equipment, a key Senate committee has reported.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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Why am i not surprised to find out that china is making our sensitive military parts. Sorry if i offend anyone but what a bunch of f**king morons in D.C..
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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Variation on "Dune", where people had plugs installed in the aorta, so that if they displeased the ruler, he could just reach out and pull the plug.

Imagine a fake sophisticated part with a death wish or signal that would turn it rogue on a predetermined date, when you just "happened" to be planning a major offensive.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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My Congressman would know that immediately so I won't have to write him.
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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I'm involved in aviation parts requisition and I can tell you that it's a huge issue in the industry, and the chinese parts can be very difficult to spot. In fact, most of my time working in corporate aviation parts was spent researching parts and verifying serial numbers to make sure that the parts we bought (which were airworthiness approved) were real. They've actually caught a number of people counterfeiting 8130 forms to sell junk parts on the market, or people who grab parts out of dumpsters and resell them as 'serviceable'.

This isn't as cut and dry as people want to make it.

In addition, when your budget is constantly going down down down you can be forced to buy from less than savory brokers which increases the possibility that the part will be counterfeit. When a decent part costs $15,000 on the open market, but the bossman tells you that you have a $7000 budget what do you do? You don't buy the part, the plane doesn't fly and the company loses money, you do buy the part and you're full of anxiety about it because it was cheap. Either way, you're screwed.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:13 AM
 
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Wasn't this brought up years ago on 60 Minutes?
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:40 AM
 
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"Rather than acknowledging the problem and moving aggressively to shut down counterfeiters, the Chinese government has tried to avoid scrutiny," the report complains. But it heaps just as much blame on the US supply chain and the Pentagon, saying the government's efforts to keep out fake parts were "woefully lacking." What's more, the Defense Department has reimbursed companies for costs they incurred because they failed to spot fake parts, giving them little incentive to sniff out future counterfeits.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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What is the big problem here?

The government/military puts in the RFP:

"All parts must be manufactured, assembled and certified in the United States of America."

Then we can watch our military budget triple....
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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We have a whole air force bought and paid for but they aren't using it because it was designed for fighter-fighter warfare. So they are just sitting there.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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"All parts must be manufactured, assembled and certified in the United States of America."

Then we can watch our military budget triple....
True, but we would be pumping into our own economy. Creating jobs, advancing technology and not supporting china. Not supporting china is worth every penny IMO.
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