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Old 03-21-2013, 05:53 AM
 
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The USMC is operating two unmanned K-MAX heavy lift helicopters in Afghanistan...

The pace of UAV deployments is staggering, technology at it's finest...

How long before UAV's start being used commercially in America?



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Old 03-21-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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This impact of this will only accelerate technological unemployment. Less people will be needed in the military, imagine what that will do to military cities, and less people will be needed to fly planes drive busses etc. This I think this is the bigger dilemma facing us in the next 20 years not climate change,
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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This impact of this will only accelerate technological unemployment. Less people will be needed in the military, imagine what that will do to military cities, and less people will be needed to fly planes drive busses etc. This I think this is the bigger dilemma facing us in the next 20 years not climate change,

I didn't take it that way. Unmanned vehicles still require pilots and maintenance personnel.

However, unmanned vehicles probably require less engineering - they don't need to be "man rated". So, perhaps unmanned vehicles will reduced the demand for engineers.

On the other hand, unmanned vehicles (since not man rated) can be built cheaper. So, more can be build per budget dollar. Maybe more diversity in design and more applications (dangerous environments, ability to accept higher risk as the consequence of loss is less, nobody killed)

It's an economic question.
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I didn't take it that way. Unmanned vehicles still require pilots and maintenance personnel.

However, unmanned vehicles probably require less engineering - they don't need to be "man rated". So, perhaps unmanned vehicles will reduced the demand for engineers.

On the other hand, unmanned vehicles (since not man rated) can be built cheaper. So, more can be build per budget dollar. Maybe more diversity in design and more applications (dangerous environments, ability to accept higher risk as the consequence of loss is less, nobody killed)

It's an economic question.
This is today with current technology but it is advancing at a exponential rate so fast forward 10 to 20 years and that will not be the case. I see this first hand. I live in a city that was hit hard with technological unemployment people just don't notice it because its "normal" however the steel mill here use to employ over 10,000 people in the 1960's today it employs a little over 1,000 yet its the most profitable it has ever been. This is just one example and with how fast things are advancing today I suspect in less then 10 years we will see a bigger technological unemployment rate. Honestly though it surprises me how fast the unmanned helicopters are advancing but it does make sense.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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Pilots will be almost out of the loop in many situations. If you want a cargo to go from point A to point B, you put in the coordinates turn on the traffic avoidance circuits and sit back.
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Pilots will be almost out of the loop in many situations. If you want a cargo to go from point A to point B, you put in the coordinates turn on the traffic avoidance circuits and sit back.
They wont even have pilots in time.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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This impact of this will only accelerate technological unemployment. Less people will be needed in the military, imagine what that will do to military cities, and less people will be needed to fly planes drive busses etc. This I think this is the bigger dilemma facing us in the next 20 years not climate change,
Isn't this the same mentality some used with the advent of computers?

Yeah, look at all the lost jobs....
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Isn't this the same mentality some used with the advent of computers?

Yeah, look at all the lost jobs....
Don't get me wrong if you look at my posts in this sub forum, especially the thread on the singularity, I am all for the new technology and in fact am counting down the days to it. That being said we are at a point in history where computers are now taking away our jobs and will do so in the next 30 years as they keep advancing at a exponential rate. The term is called technological unemployment and we are going to have to deal with it as it will change the world economy in ways we cant even imagine now.

Look at this story from 60 minutes:

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