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Old 06-18-2020, 10:09 AM
 
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That's nice. Thanks for sharing.
Heaven forbid we have someone who is transforming space flight, right? SpaceX has the kind of energy NASA did in the 60’s.
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Old 06-18-2020, 10:12 AM
 
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It's great that Elon is using Mars as his goal because that will just really advance space technology in general, but the whole concept is a complete fallacy. No matter how bad it gets on earth, and I'm talking about worst case atomic bombs destroying most cities, nuclear fallout, and a scorched atmosphere - Earth would STILL be a better host for life and the continuance of civilization than Mars by several orders of magnitude
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Old 06-18-2020, 11:24 AM
 
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Heaven forbid we have someone who is transforming space flight, right? SpaceX has the kind of energy NASA did in the 60’s.
Well - I was making fun of euro123's snide comment. Musk is a difficult chap, but when it comes to space flight, he's sure as all out rewritten the rule book. No wonder the old gang at NASA/Boeing/Lockheed/Thiokol hate him.
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Old 06-18-2020, 11:27 AM
 
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It's great that Elon is using Mars as his goal because that will just really advance space technology in general, but the whole concept is a complete fallacy. No matter how bad it gets on earth, and I'm talking about worst case atomic bombs destroying most cities, nuclear fallout, and a scorched atmosphere - Earth would STILL be a better host for life and the continuance of civilization than Mars by several orders of magnitude
It IS weird. A bit like someone developing the sea-going chronometer to go looking for Atlantis.
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Old 06-18-2020, 06:01 PM
 
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Well - I was making fun of euro123's snide comment. Musk is a difficult chap, but when it comes to space flight, he's sure as all out rewritten the rule book. No wonder the old gang at NASA/Boeing/Lockheed/Thiokol hate him.
I wasn't getting back at you but really agreeing. Definitely he's a hard@ss but gets results. Those first stage boost backs and landing are amazing.
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Old 06-18-2020, 06:06 PM
 
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I wasn't getting back at you but really agreeing. Definitely he's a hard@ss but gets results. Those first stage boost backs and landing are amazing.
The people at NASA who have met Musk all say he is the smartest person they have ever met, that is coming from rocket scientists themselves
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Old 06-18-2020, 06:38 PM
 
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It's great that Elon is using Mars as his goal because that will just really advance space technology in general, but the whole concept is a complete fallacy. No matter how bad it gets on earth, and I'm talking about worst case atomic bombs destroying most cities, nuclear fallout, and a scorched atmosphere - Earth would STILL be a better host for life and the continuance of civilization than Mars by several orders of magnitude
I think of Mars as a stepping stone to go further out. We won't find a planet or moon as hospitable as the Earth as that is our home, but it's still worth putting humans out there. There are tons of exoplanet candidates that may one day be reached with different types of technology.
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Old 06-18-2020, 06:42 PM
 
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There are tons of exoplanet candidates that may one day be reached with different types of technology.
Extremely unlikely, certainly not with any currently known laws of physics
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Old 06-19-2020, 02:38 AM
 
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The people at NASA who have met Musk all say he is the smartest person they have ever met, that is coming from rocket scientists themselves
Really, like who? Give us specific names of such NASA people, and where/when they said it. They need to be a genuine representatives of NASA and what it's traditionally been about, and also not paid by him or benefitted through him.

Musk is no-doubt charismatic, and filling a void needed now as representative of space and exploration. He does exhibit some value. But he typically supports himself with his own puffed up illusions. Silliness dressed up in colorful or enticing clothes is still silliness.
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Old 06-19-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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Really, like who? Give us specific names of such NASA people, and where/when they said it. They need to be a genuine representatives of NASA and what it's traditionally been about, and also not paid by him or benefitted through him.

Musk is no-doubt charismatic, and filling a void needed now as representative of space and exploration. He does exhibit some value. But he typically supports himself with his own puffed up illusions. Silliness dressed up in colorful or enticing clothes is still silliness.
The guy is a genuine genius, he went from inventing paypal to inventing a cool and functional fleet of electric cars, to teaching himself astrophysics and rocket science. Haters going to hate though
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