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Old 09-26-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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What if the tracking was done by a person? Someone following you, peering in your windows, riding in your car, walking in and out of stores with you, sleeping next to you ... reading every text and email and listening to every conversation you have. This person also knows how much money you spend on groceries, where you gas up your car and what activities you pay for children, as well as where and when your children participate. And knows what your children look like.

And then they would put all of that detailed info int a report. Every day.

If someone was actively following you around, you'd have a restraining order on them.

Just because it's electronic doesn't mean it DOES NOT MATTER.
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Old 09-26-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Apparently tracking secretly started in 2010. The government has detailed maps on every cell phone user.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fac_story.html

https://www.eff.org/issues/cell-tracking

Report: iPhones secretly track their users' locations - CNN.com

When is it too much?
I am Jack's...complete lack of surprise.
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Old 09-26-2016, 08:43 AM
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Do you thinkl the govt has any desire to know what 300,000,000 + people are doing at any given moment?

"Look Harry - There goes that Joe Smith fella in Tyler Texas going to Wal-Mart again - write up a report."
Yes, they do. Which is precisely why it happens.
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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You can't be serious.
So it is your assumption that the government wants to know when you go to wal-mart?

That is RIDICULOUS. Just as ridiculous that the NSA is listening in on your phone calls.
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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Yes, they do. Which is precisely why it happens.
Fix your tin foil hat please. Tell me, what would the possible benefit be o anyone to know where random individuals are at any given time unless that individual is involved in a federal level crime?
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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It could actually be useful. Not just at any given moment, but all the time. Then, to get a list of the activities of a terrorism suspect, do a search of the database, using info about that suspect as keys, and display those activities.
SUSPECT. There is the key. Thing is they have been doing phone taps and covert surveillance for decades.
Look up John Gotti. They have video, wire taps, hidden microphones, financial records and anything else they needed on him and his associates. They couldnt care what the average citizen does on a daily basis and the time and effort required to do so would undermine their efforts to actually track suspects.
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:43 AM
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So it is your assumption that the government wants to know when you go to wal-mart?

That is RIDICULOUS. Just as ridiculous that the NSA is listening in on your phone calls.
Then feel free to leave your stuff out there wide open for the NSA to see. Your choice.
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Old 09-26-2016, 11:05 AM
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SUSPECT. There is the key. Thing is they have been doing phone taps and covert surveillance for decades.
Look up John Gotti. They have video, wire taps, hidden microphones, financial records and anything else they needed on him and his associates. They couldnt care what the average citizen does on a daily basis and the time and effort required to do so would undermine their efforts to actually track suspects.
What if it's someone they have not yet identified?
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:51 PM
 
Location: NYC
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If you've got shady money hiding somewhere then you should worry but if you worried about your sex life being monitored then that's a different story.
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Old 09-26-2016, 04:06 PM
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If you've got shady money hiding somewhere then you should worry but if you worried about your sex life being monitored then that's a different story.
The "I have nothing to hide" argument is so weak...if that's what you are implying. Everyone should be concerned about their privacy.
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