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Old 02-01-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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Hi,

I read that if one of the aforementioned events happened then it could destroy computers, flash drives, dvd's, data centers, the internet, electronics and so forth.

Is there an INEXPENSIVE way that we can back up our personal photos, videos and documents in the event of such events occurring?
As for the photos: Start, week by week or month by month, going to a pharmacy or other place that develops photos, printing photos from your phone, SD chip or thumb. Old-fashioned photo albums are cheap at Goodwills and Dollar stores.

You can also copy music to CD-R, although the verdict is out if, or not, EMP can fry those.
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Old 02-01-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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A nuclear war will most likely result in humans becoming extinct as a species, there will be no one to read your back ups and even if there were a few survivors there would be no power grid to power any electronic equipment to play back your saved data.
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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CD/DVD's are optical media.

Flash Memory is solid state

Traditional hard drives are magnetic.

Which type of event would affect all three?

If it was a nuclear war like mentioned, who cares about photos? I would care more about my life...
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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A nuclear war will most likely result in humans becoming extinct as a species, there will be no one to read your back ups and even if there were a few survivors there would be no power grid to power any electronic equipment to play back your saved data.
This isn't optimism, it's math but, I think humanity may possibly survive even a nuclear war. All the countries that wanna nuke eachother are in the northern hemisphere.

It depends on the type and longevity of the fallout. Radioactive elements can have the following factors;

Lethality (how quickly it can kill, either through direct rads, damaging the atmosphere or agriculture)
Density (this determines how easily the wind can spread it and how far, its' range basically)
Longevity (usually measured in "half-lives", determines how long you are stuck with it)

If you have all 3, humanity and possibly all life is done for but, remove even 1 and humanity could survive.

Examples; China, US, Europe and Russia are probably f---ed but of the fallout don't go over the entire world South Africa, Australia and Argentina ...could... be safe... maybe? Or, if the fallout kind of increases cancer but, you can still grow stuff and produce viable adults faster than it can kill you, we can survive... I mean a 35 year life expentancy sucks but, you can... exist (kind of like the wildlife in Pripyat near Chernobyl).


Back to the relevant question. If you have a USB and laptop in metal container (but not touching it metal to metal), it will work... assuming you can power it but, immediate survival needs like food, water, shelter and, killing other people before they kill you will take precedence if it's a situation where no computer works anywhere. So if photos mean that much to you, get to a pharmachain and start printing them.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Will M-Discs survive a nuclear war, EMP or solar flare?
Are you sure humans are going to survive nuclear war, EMP or solar fare? If no, the who is going to read those files or care about your photos?
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Some reading on the consequences of a nuclear war,i assure you storing your data will be the last thing on your mind =https://www.google.ca/search?ei=d4Jz....0.6_aIsmRCTEA
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Old 02-01-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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Are you sure humans are going to survive nuclear war, EMP or solar fare? If no, the who is going to read those files or care about your photos?
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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A nuclear war will most likely result in humans becoming extinct as a species, there will be no one to read your back ups and even if there were a few survivors there would be no power grid to power any electronic equipment to play back your saved data.
If a few humans and the media survive such a cataclysm, I imagine if this media is discovered,
someone will yell "WITCHCRAFT!" and burn the discs.

I wonder if any of these companies take religious hysteria, societal regression after a mass traumatic event, and other such human flaws in account when they design
media meant to last centuries or millennia?
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:26 AM
 
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An interesting interactive map of nuclear bomb destructive power=https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?...1=591272&zm=10

Considering it would take one bomb to destroy a major city like NY or Chicago imagine the devastation 6-10 thousand bombs will cause coming our way and another 6-10 thousand bombs going the other way.In such a scenario saving data seems rather pointless
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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An interesting interactive map of nuclear bomb destructive power=https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?...1=591272&zm=10

Considering it would take one bomb to destroy a major city like NY or Chicago imagine the devastation 6-10 thousand bombs will cause coming our way and another 6-10 thousand bombs going the other way.In such a scenario saving data seems rather pointless
6-10k warheads I think I'd be more worried about saving the planet! That many detonations, within a two hour tops time period, might be enough to actually open huge new fissures in the crust, resulting in numerous earthquakes off the Richter scale and releasing pyro-clastic lava flows over most of the surface not covered by water!


Earth... ten to twenty days after a full nuclear exchange:





Earth... ten to twenty years after a full nuclear exchange:

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