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Old 08-12-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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"In British English, a billion used to be equivalent to a million million (i.e. 1,000,000,000,000), while in American English it has always equated to a thousand million (i.e. 1,000,000,000). British English has now adopted the American figure, though, so that a billion equals a thousand million in both varieties of English." - https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/ex...-is-a-billion/
It's not specifically a language thing, it's just a different scale. There is a short scale and a long scale.

It varies by country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_a...#Current_usage

More here on Billion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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It's not specifically a language thing, it's just a different scale. There is a short scale and a long scale.

For ton the US uses the short ton or 2000 pounds, an imperial ton is 2,240. then you have the metric ton which is 1000kg or 2,204.6 pounds. Try explaining to a customer they are getting a "short" ton when they are paying by the ton.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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For ton the US uses the short ton or 2000 pounds, an imperial ton is 2,240. then you have the metric ton which is 1000kg or 2,204.6 pounds. Try explaining to a customer they are getting a "short" ton when they are paying by the ton.
If it's in the US why even mention it? A ton is a ton, i.e. 2000 lbs. Last time I checked we use pounds and not kilos. Try using "stone" to describe weight as they do in the UK, that for sure would throw people off.

How much is a stone anyway?

J/K
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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Well, the term "difference" implies subtraction, so the difference between a million and a billion is


999,000,000.


You're all welcome.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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For ton the US uses the short ton or 2000 pounds, an imperial ton is 2,240. then you have the metric ton which is 1000kg or 2,204.6 pounds. Try explaining to a customer they are getting a "short" ton when they are paying by the ton.
tell them they are getting a "USA-USA-USA" ton
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:35 PM
 
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Next time people are talking million and billions heres a perspective =
https://twitter.com/Paul_Franz/statu...51165142536194
Its even worse when you use the real definition of a billion. The word literally mean bi- million or a million millions. In Europe they use the long scale billion, and would say the Earth is 4.6 thousand millions years old.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:37 PM
 
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It's not specifically a language thing, it's just a different scale. There is a short scale and a long scale.

It varies by country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_a...#Current_usage

More here on Billion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion
The word billion literally mean bi-million. Etymology wise that means million millions.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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Human intuition is poor in many ways, but particularly so when conceptualizing very large and small numbers & scales, and even more so when comparing such figures.


One of my favorite examples is that there is approximately 1,000 times more molecules of water in a single glass of water than there are glasses of water in all of the world's lakes, oceans, and seas combined.
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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All he’s demonstrating is that people don’t have a strong intuitive sense of what 1000 is. Time is the hardest because the units are all over the place.

It’s a lot easier to understand with volumes. A millimeter is tiny, but you can see one on a metric ruler. A cubic millimeter is just a cube of that size. A million cubic millimeters is a liter, about half a soda bottle. A billion cubic millimeters is a cubic meter, about the size of a hot tub.
It actually makes a billion seem not that much when you put it like that. To an adult 11 days is seemingly nothing so 1,000 times that would seem like less than 31 years.
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