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Old 01-01-2020, 08:13 PM
 
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A single free adblocker add-on will do the job.
All you have to do is give up data, cash or both

Ad problem solved

LOL
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Old 01-02-2020, 01:57 PM
 
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All you have to do is give up data, cash or both

Ad problem solved

LOL
Can you name a single free ad-blocker for which you have to fork out cash?

As for data, if you have a smart phone you give up data. Every time you log on to your electronic device, use your credit card, or perform any other kind of automatic transaction, even if you just fill out a customer satisfaction form at a shop you give up data. If you are registered with a clinic and your health records are stored electronically, guess what, you give up data. If you have an email address, Microsoft Office, any other purchased software, Skype, etc you give up data. Plus, god forbid you should use standard search engines, or have any social media presence, or be on C-D... And that's just a tip of an iceberg. I'd imagine you'd have to have some serious background in computer securities and forensics and jump through a dizzying amount of hoops to limit the trace you leave online to barely audible. And you worry about an app that at least prevents all those companies that steal your data on a day to day basis from interfering with your peaceful use of YouTube? I suppose, whatever floats your boat.

All I know is that I haven't had a single add on YouTube or any other pop up add in years, which, if you ask me, works for me.
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Old 01-02-2020, 03:12 PM
 
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LOL

Yes "ad problem solved"

As you capitulate to their terms for payment for access to something that was free



Most video services do not provide free content, Youtube is one of the exceptions. You are complaining about something that doesn't cost you a dime.




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How about paying for the privilege of shopping on Amazon?

The product on Amazon is what they sell including their paid video service.




https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/offe...oaApQ9EALw_wcB




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Or checking the weather?

I usually use the local station and it has ads....


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how about reading your texts?

Included in your phone bill.




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However some consider paying for a website that has no competition for some inexplicable reason a foolish idea

There is numerous paid video services that compete with Youtubes video, most do not provide free service.
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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Can you name a single free ad-blocker for which you have to fork out cash?

As for data, if you have a smart phone you give up data. Every time you log on to your electronic device, use your credit card, or perform any other kind of automatic transaction, even if you just fill out a customer satisfaction form at a shop you give up data. If you are registered with a clinic and your health records are stored electronically, guess what, you give up data. If you have an email address, Microsoft Office, any other purchased software, Skype, etc you give up data. Plus, god forbid you should use standard search engines, or have any social media presence, or be on C-D... And that's just a tip of an iceberg. I'd imagine you'd have to have some serious background in computer securities and forensics and jump through a dizzying amount of hoops to limit the trace you leave online to barely audible. And you worry about an app that at least prevents all those companies that steal your data on a day to day basis from interfering with your peaceful use of YouTube? I suppose, whatever floats your boat.

All I know is that I haven't had a single add on YouTube or any other pop up add in years, which, if you ask me, works for me.
LOL

since when did we have to click an "agreement" to usa a website

Thats business model is only possible if you have a monopoly

A monopoly is only possible without net nutrality
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:30 AM
 
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LOL

since when did we have to click an "agreement" to usa a website

Thats business model is only possible if you have a monopoly

A monopoly is only possible without net nutrality
Gotcha. You're one of those...

Never mind.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:17 PM
 
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since when did we have to click an "agreement" to usa a website

Most websites have a TOS especially ones you register for.



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A monopoly is only possible without net nutrality
I support NN Boer and so does Google and nearly every other major content provider, you are barking up the wrong tree and obviously do not understand what NN is.



If your ISP made an agreement with YouTube and was blocking or throttling similar services/content that is an example of breaking the NN principal. Youtube itself since they are only content provider cannot break the NN principal without the cooperation of the ISP. If the ISP was going to do this logic dictates they would throttle YouTube in favor of their own video services.



Understand?
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:12 AM
 
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Most websites have a TOS especially ones you register for.



I support NN Boer and so does Google and nearly every other major content provider, you are barking up the wrong tree and obviously do not understand what NN is.



If your ISP made an agreement with YouTube and was blocking or throttling similar services/content that is an example of breaking the NN principal. Youtube itself since they are only content provider cannot break the NN principal without the cooperation of the ISP. If the ISP was going to do this logic dictates they would throttle YouTube in favor of their own video services.



Understand?
You may love net neutrality with all your little hearts desire but the problem is it has been thrown into the scrap Heap and now Ajit pi has empowered the isps with god-like monopolistic corporate control over your internet

They have scoured the internet and destroyed your access to free websites and now Craigslist is charging and demanding text confirmation and YouTube is running 3 and 4 spam ads overlaid and shoehorned into your videos

Net neutrality is dead and we are suffering the consequences

It's been a slow and steady process like a python strangling its prey

We are now in it's coils but haven't figured out that its a deadly scenario


RIP NET NUTRALITY

Welcome "trump net".... brought to you by your local ISP AKA corporate Overlord of the internet
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:19 AM
 
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https://youtu.be/K674LKBUukk
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Old 02-07-2020, 03:20 PM
 
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They have scoured the internet and destroyed your access to free websites and now Craigslist is charging and demanding text confirmation and YouTube is running 3 and 4 spam ads overlaid and shoehorned into your videos

Once again you apparently have no idea what net neutrality is. CL charging for classifieds and the ads on Youtube videos have nothing to do with NN. Zero, nada zilch.... they are content providers.

Let's suppose your ISP who sits between you and services like CL came to agreement with CL to prioritize their traffic and throttled or blocked traffic to competing sites. That would be a violation of the NN principle.

Is your access to competing classified sites being blocked or throttled by your ISP?

You can at least understand what you are talking about so you can form good arguments. For example, bundling video services with the phone services and not calculating bandwidth used for those services against the plan cap is grey are where NN is concerned. Many would argue it's violation of the NN principle .
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:52 PM
 
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Once again you apparently have no idea what net neutrality is. CL charging for classifieds and the ads on Youtube videos have nothing to do with NN. Zero, nada zilch.... they are content providers.

Let's suppose your ISP who sits between you and services like CL came to agreement with CL to prioritize their traffic and throttled or blocked traffic to competing sites. That would be a violation of the NN principle.

Is your access to competing classified sites being blocked or throttled by your ISP?

You can at least understand what you are talking about so you can form good arguments. For example, bundling video services with the phone services and not calculating bandwidth used for those services against the plan cap is grey are where NN is concerned. Many would argue it's violation of the NN principle .
Nobody has to worry about net neutrality principle "violations" anymore because it's been repealed that's the whole point of the thread

Im hyper aware that blocking filtering and throttling websites at the ISP pleasure is EXACTLY what NN laws protected us from

Youtube and Craigslist can only use this kind of profit strategy if they have a near total Monopoly in their particular focus

destruction of the net neutrality laws facilitate a handful of big corporations completely dominating the american internet

"Content providers" are NOT on a level playing field anymore

The "trump net" is a corporate wet dream

A small handful of powerful corporations can now pay the ISP to prioritize their content by blocking filtering and throttling their competition

they (content providers) didn't want to have this one all powerful corporate Overlord calling the shots (isp) but now that they are in total command and control they have to play ball

it's going to cost a lot but they will be able to stay ahead of their competition while the ISP takes the Lion's Share of the profits
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