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Old 10-23-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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Some of you folks need to read up on the purpose of patents and why organizations file patent applications.


(Hint: the Navy is not poised on the brink of releasing "Mr. Fusion".)
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Old 10-25-2019, 12:26 PM
 
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LOL! Someone understands the reason for the process. I was beginning to wonder if a light was going to come on or the room would stay dark.
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Old 10-27-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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Are you thinking of the kid who collected up a bunch of smoke detectors for the tiny amount of radioactive material in each? All he created was a huge contaminated mess (a "hot mess" for sure) and a giant bill for the cleanup.
Never heard about that, do you have a link?
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Old 10-27-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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It would be enough to have the information in the public domain. If there was a patent for making free energy and it was not full of expensive and hard-to-find pieces (like element 115 for example), dont you think that people would make one up for themselves?

Then, maybe they would make up a product using this form of technology inside it as a component, or change the design or even take it to another country and create it there and sell it. That has been done many times to get around patents and it is difficult to police and prosecute in other countries.

There is a guy who made a nuclear generator in his garage when he was younger. Cannot remember his name now.
If it threatens the energy industry its not going to matter what country you go to, they will definitely target you.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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Never heard about that, do you have a link?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9369274/

LOL

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Old 10-28-2019, 08:29 AM
 
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If it threatens the energy industry its not going to matter what country you go to, they will definitely target you.
Again, please read up on the purposes of patent applications and maybe also see if you can find any data on the percentage of applications that are actually realized in actual products.


You know, there are valid reasons why organizations file applications with the intention of having them rejected!
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Old 10-28-2019, 08:32 AM
 
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Never heard about that, do you have a link?
No, but you could try using "boy collected smoke detectors" as a search keyword...
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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It would be enough to have the information in the public domain. If there was a patent for making free energy and it was not full of expensive and hard-to-find pieces (like element 115 for example), dont you think that people would make one up for themselves?

Then, maybe they would make up a product using this form of technology inside it as a component, or change the design or even take it to another country and create it there and sell it. That has been done many times to get around patents and it is difficult to police and prosecute in other countries.

There is a guy who made a nuclear generator in his garage when he was younger. Cannot remember his name now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PINttscIAEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HL1BEC024g

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Old 11-16-2019, 08:19 PM
 
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It might be viewable, but just try to go ahead and make one, or better, try to market and sell them...and see what happens!

That's the purpose of a patent, once expired typically after 20 years you are free to use the tech.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:50 PM
 
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There are numerous reasons for submitting a patent application. An application filed does not indicate any kind of imminent use of the technology for which the application is being submitted.


As one example, if you want to make sure a particular invention cannot be patented by someone else, you can file a patent application, which constitutes publishing the invention, and then abandon the application later. Since the invention has been published and priority established, no one else will be able to patent it.


As another example, early in a development project a development team might identify five or six different approaches to solving a particular design problem. At the early stage, they don't know which if any will actually turn out to be feasible. So they file applications on all of them.


And one more example: your competitor comes out with a new product - so you quickly file applications on all the possible extensions and variants of said technology that aren't explicitly defined in the claims of their patents. Now if they don't have filings not yet published that have priority, you may have limited the ways they can exploit and extend the technology in the future.


The general public have a grossly distorted idea of what patents are, what patent applications are, what they mean and what they don't mean.
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