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Old 01-05-2020, 10:06 AM
 
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I dunno, what's the first civilization known on Earth? There you will probably find the first hotels. I THINK Damascus is the oldest extant city, and I'm sure there were hotels.
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Old 01-05-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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The young people are just completely oblivious to what the exact years of operation are to the giant emerging engineering marvels. I thought the airplanes didn't even begin until the earliest 1970s for the first ones! Are the prices equal to the 2010 to 2019 rate of ticketing. Including to average salary? I bet ending up equal, even if appearing extra affordable then.

Other than the rides in the horizons well above the ground, what about the Hotel Rooms? What is the first one on Planet Earth, and in what country? Please, the exact name of reference. Is this information that I can find online? I bet that I am able to see this on the World Wide Web Google search engine, yet I rather discover this on CD.com Science Technology Forum.
I would suggest that you discover the answers to these questions, and many others, at this thing called the


PUBLIC LIBRARY.


Get a card, and start in the section called "World History". The multi volume set by Will and Ariel Durant called "The History of Civilization" is a good start.
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:25 AM
 
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what about the Hotel Rooms?

"There was no room at the inn" (source...New Testament)
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I dunno, what's the first civilization known on Earth? There you will probably find the first hotels. I THINK Damascus is the oldest extant city, and I'm sure there were hotels.
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I would suggest that you discover the answers to these questions, and many others, at this thing called the

PUBLIC LIBRARY.

Get a card, and start in the section called "World History". The multi volume set by Will and Ariel Durant called "The History of Civilization" is a good start.
Apparently, the first claim of a Hotel is in ancient Japan:

"Oldest
According to the Guinness Book of World Records, the oldest hotel in operation is the Nisiyama Onsen Keiunkan in Yamanashi, Japan. The hotel, first opened in AD 707, has been operated by the same family for forty-six generations. The title was held until 2011 by the Hoshi Ryokan, in the Awazu Onsen area of Komatsu, Japan, which opened in the year 718, as the history of the Nisiyama Onsen Keiunkan was virtually unknown."

I am kind of very mesmerized if that is really Japan. Could have sworn that would be in areas of Europe that are not geographically isolated. (Hungary, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Netherlands, Czech Republic, UK, Greece) Or even the Middle East because of the oldest civilizations. Lebanon or Israel.
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Old 01-08-2020, 11:11 AM
 
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That's the oldest still in operation. Not the first ever. Actually a quick Wikipedia shows a number of no-longer-inhabited cities before Damascus which appears to have been founded around 2000 BCE. There's one in Turkey that is dated to 7000 BCE. I'm positive there were inns in it.
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Old 01-12-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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That's the oldest still in operation. Not the first ever. Actually a quick Wikipedia shows a number of no-longer-inhabited cities before Damascus which appears to have been founded around 2000 BCE. There's one in Turkey that is dated to 7000 BCE. I'm positive there were inns in it.
Indeed very obscure to discover. I wonder what the rules are to really affirmatively establish a Hotel building from the bare ground up. I bet way further highly supportive to the system than enacting a Restaurant, Cafe, Nightlife Venue, or any Independent Business Store theme. Another emerging question point is the various organizations effort of the practical without the computer machine Internet resource. Usually, sounds way extra arduous.

The Middle East is ancient, and a with a rich spiritual past. Not about the extreme politics, or the religion.
Although, I believe areas of Europe, and far East Asia made the first Hotels to the average citizen. Especially to what they encompass with the facilities.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:41 PM
 
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My ex wife and I went to Washington DC in the mid 90s, we didnt have internet yet (she had a 'Web tv' thing), but it was mostly for entertainment).


We called hotels in the area we wanted to stay and took the best deal, we then booked the room over the phone...it was very simple, took maybe 20 minutes total.
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Old 01-20-2020, 08:04 PM
 
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Ok, I'll bite...not sure where this is going...


In the 90's (and before, of course) - you used The Telephone to make hotel reservations. A good way to find hotels (I mean, international or resort, or otherwise vacation) was by advertising - you saw it in a magazine, basically. Or a brochure from AAA. You didn't read 350 reviews and narrow it down. You trusted the advertising, because that is - literally - all you had - unless you knew someone who had been there. Rare.



If you're wondering how you did it where English wasn't The Language - you learned some of it. Enough to say (in German or French or Spanish or ...). I NEED A RESERVATION - 5 DAYS - starting 3 NOVEMBER. Then use your spanish numbers and read your credit card over the phone. This is just one method of course - I used snail mail for this purpose (for instance, I speak zero Arabic, so when going to Egypt - we sent mail. The recipient would find an English speaker, and THAT person called ME. All very quaint. ) I booked rooms on The Phone in French as recently as 2012 - at bed and breakfasts in france with no online reservations. I am certain those places still exist - and you non-internet users will miss out on a great place to stay.



And of course - the flights - two ways. One was to use the number in the Yellow Pages - just call the airline directly. You did not - ordinarily - compare 47 flights on 26 airlines. You picked a day and time, you called, and you paid it, that was that. If you wanted to pursue many simultaneous options - you used a travel agent. Travel agents still have uses (cruises, for instance). Back then - you had to have a paper ticket to fly - so the agent usually delivered it.


That's pretty much how I remember it. I don't remember struggling at all. It was a phone. I used it.


Airplanes then - regularly less than 50% full - nearly always an unoccupied seat next to you - because there was no easy way for airlines to dynamically balance things on the fly (sorry for the pun).



I miss those days.


I miss when people didn't wear pajamas and body odor on the plane too, but I guess that's manner-shaming. : D
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Old 01-21-2020, 11:44 PM
 
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Ok, I'll bite...not sure where this is going...


In the 90's (and before, of course) - you used The Telephone to make hotel reservations. A good way to find hotels (I mean, international or resort, or otherwise vacation) was by advertising - you saw it in a magazine, basically. Or a brochure from AAA. You didn't read 350 reviews and narrow it down. You trusted the advertising, because that is - literally - all you had - unless you knew someone who had been there. Rare.



If you're wondering how you did it where English wasn't The Language - you learned some of it. Enough to say (in German or French or Spanish or ...). I NEED A RESERVATION - 5 DAYS - starting 3 NOVEMBER. Then use your spanish numbers and read your credit card over the phone. This is just one method of course - I used snail mail for this purpose (for instance, I speak zero Arabic, so when going to Egypt - we sent mail. The recipient would find an English speaker, and THAT person called ME. All very quaint. ) I booked rooms on The Phone in French as recently as 2012 - at bed and breakfasts in france with no online reservations. I am certain those places still exist - and you non-internet users will miss out on a great place to stay.



And of course - the flights - two ways. One was to use the number in the Yellow Pages - just call the airline directly. You did not - ordinarily - compare 47 flights on 26 airlines. You picked a day and time, you called, and you paid it, that was that. If you wanted to pursue many simultaneous options - you used a travel agent. Travel agents still have uses (cruises, for instance). Back then - you had to have a paper ticket to fly - so the agent usually delivered it.


That's pretty much how I remember it. I don't remember struggling at all. It was a phone. I used it.


Airplanes then - regularly less than 50% full - nearly always an unoccupied seat next to you - because there was no easy way for airlines to dynamically balance things on the fly (sorry for the pun).



I miss those days.


I miss when people didn't wear pajamas and body odor on the plane too, but I guess that's manner-shaming. : D
I dont think there are 'travel agents' anymore, not like there used to be anyway, they would be lucky to get any business today, given the travel options a regular person has at their disposal today...I cannot remember seeing ads for travel agents since the mid 90s!
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Old 01-22-2020, 07:41 AM
 
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I dont think there are 'travel agents' anymore, not like there used to be anyway, they would be lucky to get any business today, given the travel options a regular person has at their disposal today...I cannot remember seeing ads for travel agents since the mid 90s!
There are still travel agents in business. I'm not sure how they survive.
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Old 01-22-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Travel agents (as near as I can tell) survive a couple of ways:


Although I can make bookings by myself online - and we travel a ton for work - it's not cost-efficient for us to do so. I can have a travel agent do the legwork finding open hotel rooms, etc., and it doesn't take up my time. That's one way. Esp. if the hotel staff doesn't speak English - because online reservations only you get you so far with regard to corporate discounts, transportation to the airport with someone you recognize...etc... Of course I can do it myself - at some cost - but why spend the time?



Another way - upscale vacations - you WANT a travel agent to organize your safari or whatever - because someone who's done it will get way better results than you. Usually.


Yet another way - cruises - you do NOT book a cruise directly with the cruise line unless you just like flushing money down the drain. A TA experienced in these things can save you a boatload ; )


I'm not a TA - but you asked how they stay open, and these are three ways off the top of my head.
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