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Old 04-22-2020, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Which public figures would collaborate with the aliens and which would fight?
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Old 04-22-2020, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Which public figures would collaborate with the aliens and which would fight?

Democrats would collaborate.
Republicans would fight. We're the ones with most of the privately owned guns.
Independents would probably fight because they are, well, independent.
Tea Party would probably fight.
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Old 04-22-2020, 06:51 PM
 
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Depends on whether it is an invasion strictly for natural resources and our current environment suits them (1) or if they require humans to do the work for them in some way using our existing technology or migrate to the technology necessary to meet their ends.



Scenario 1 advance scouting briefly to assess our military and defense capabilities. Then the satellite and communications systems go down first and the eradication of the humanoids begins immediately or perhaps its a win win for them and humans are a food source to.



Scenario 2 they infiltrate with advance scouts and take over control of the economic, political and social systems of the times and then mold and program the humanoids to do their bidding over whatever they deem an acceptable time frame. Once goals are met the culling and repopulating with the aliens begins.
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Old 04-23-2020, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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I imagine it more like District 9.

Then the overlords come and enslave is all. Or try to. Because Will Smith and Jeff Goldbloom would jack them up with fancy flying a virus and a nuke.
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:26 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Well, if our fictional 'aliens' have managed to conquer the challenges of interstellar/intergalactic travel, one might also presume that their medical technology is sufficiently advanced that they have solutions for that as well.
Not likely. We have stuff here among our own species that kills us by the millions. These "visitors" wouldn't stand a chance breathing our air.
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Democrats would collaborate.
Republicans would fight. We're the ones with most of the privately owned guns.
Independents would probably fight because they are, well, independent.
Tea Party would probably fight.
Awesome post! Indisputable!
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Old 04-23-2020, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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If what we know about physics is accurate, interstellar travel within human-like lifespans is impossible. There are probably aliens out there, but like us, they're on their planet doing their thing and that's all they will ever do. We don't even have the technology available to detect a civilization like ours unless they are set up exactly right broadcasting in our direction and use the same kind of technology that we do. We're like pet cats all looking out the windows of an apartment building. We all have our worlds, & while we are looking outside, we're unaware of each other & never will be aware.

If there are aliens that have the technology for interstellar travel, it means they have harnessed energy to an extent that we can barely imagine & have the ability to warp space-time or something. If they have that, they are thousands of years beyond us and probably have weapons technology that can take us out without ever setting foot on the Earth.

Furthermore, what do we have that an advanced civilization would want? The only thing I could imagine we have of any value is the planet itself - its particular mix of elements & environmental conditions that allow it to sustain life. Our exoplanet research has only looked at a small fraction of the space in the galaxy that houses planets, but from what we can tell, Earth-like planets are not dime-a-dozen. All our other resources can be found in any given solar system. So maybe they want the planet to live on. The method of taking humans out would only be a question of how much of the Earth's other native plant & animal life they wanted to preserve. They could easily irradiate the planet & kill the animal life including us.

But I doubt they'd even be compatible with Earth's atmosphere and gravity.

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Old 04-23-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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How would you imagine an alien invasion?
I wouldn't.

Many things are predicated on baseless assumptions, poor understanding and a grotesquely ethnocentric view.

Our planet has 7 continents, but that was not always so, and our planet happens to be geologically active, which is why it now has 7 continents.

Not all planets are geologically active.

We have different races precisely because we have more than one continent.

Another planet may have only one continent.

The implication of that is they have only one race.

The implication of that is they would not necessarily harbor the same fears and prejudices that we have, right?

You feel me?

The technology required to engage in inter-planetary or interstellar travel would be incredibly advanced, right?

What is the implication of that?

It implies they do not know war and conflict, or that if they did, it is so remote in their distant past that they no longer know war and conflict.

The technological progression to achieve such developments implies that they know how to manipulate matter and energy. They would certainly know E = MC^2 (although they might represent it differently).

That means no one is running around killing people for their Nikes or starter jackets or iPhones or carjacking, because you can get whatever you want in a matter of seconds just for the asking.

I mention that because they are quite likely to be benevolent and not cunning conquerors (of which they would know nothing about).

In other words, their "world view" would be vastly different than ours.

You feel me?

Being benevolent, they would not insert themselves into our society, nor would they give advanced technology to an inferior civilization, knowing the harm and damage it would cause.

Do you give 20 kiloton spherical implosion fission devices to other countries? No, you don't and there's a good reason why you don't.

If aliens did appear, it would only be to let us know what we could potentially achieve if we put our minds to it and not to conquer and enslave us and not to eat us either (although I understand face-eating is a delicacy among some stellar worlds).
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:12 PM
 
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Not likely. We have stuff here among our own species that kills us by the millions. These "visitors" wouldn't stand a chance breathing our air.
You're assuming their metabolism resembles ours. Not a given.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:22 PM
 
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No one here is considering the very real possibility that humanoids evolved intelligence and walked the Earth 25 million years ago, built spacecraft and left.

Think about it. Lucy, the oldest known proto-human, existed 2 million years ago. The common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees existed 7 million years ago.

So some other intelligent life form could have evolved millions of years prior to that, perhaps either destroyed themselves the way we might in a nuclear war, or simply lifted ship to explore other stars, leaving the planet to lower life forms (which ultimately evolved into us).

They could possibly return some day to visit their old stomping grounds. It's not a given that they'd be friendly, either. More like, "Oh, look what evolved here while we were away! So ugly and mean and stupid. Let's wipe them out with a super-quantum-bomb, re-seed the planet, and re-colonize the place."
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