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Old 05-16-2021, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Yac, may I start a discussion concerning the science against evolution. It will be strictly science without any religious mystics allowed whether pro or con. No derogatory remarks from whichever side... just straight facts and tests and evidence.

If not acceptable, just delete this thread title immediately.. Thanks

Scientist

David B.Sc.

 
Old 05-16-2021, 10:04 AM
 
Location: california
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What evolutionary force taught the drone bees to explode when chasing to impregnate a Queen?
Why is it that after thousands of years mammals (man) living in freezing environments cannot tolerate being thoroughly frozen and thawed back to life, though some beetles can?
Why is it science thinks the earth has always spun the same speed for all of it's existence?
For a fact the tsunami that hit Indonesia effected the earth's rotation, as well as the tsunami that hit Japan in 2011.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 10:54 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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What evolutionary force taught the drone bees to explode when chasing to impregnate a Queen?
Why is it that after thousands of years mammals (man) living in freezing environments cannot tolerate being thoroughly frozen and thawed back to life, though some beetles can?
Why is it science thinks the earth has always spun the same speed for all of it's existence?
For a fact the tsunami that hit Indonesia effected the earth's rotation, as well as the tsunami that hit Japan in 2011.
Your third question doesn't address the issue of biological evolution and is false at any rate. It is well known that earth's rate of rotation is slowing down. Days were much longer in the distant past.
Is the rotation speed of the Earth slowing down?
Yes it is. Astronomers can measure this very precisely now that they have atomic clocks to provide a non-celestial time standard for comparison. The length of the day is increasing by 0.0015 seconds every century, of which about 0.0007 seconds per century has to do with the tidal breaking of the Moon. As a result of this, the Moon's orbit must also increase so that the Moon is slowly getting farther and farther from the Earth by a few centimeters per year or so ( my estimate!). As this process continues, it is predicted that in billions of years the lunar month will increase to about 47 days from its current 27.3 days. But by that time, the Sun itself will have begun to evolve into a red giant, which will upset the Earth-Moon system somewhat; especially if they are both engulfed by the Sun's expanding atmosphere!

https://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q396.html
As for drone bees ''exploding when chasing to impregnate a Queen'', what actually occurs is that after having impregnated the Queen bee, the drone is unable to remove himself from the Queen. In the attempt to withdraw from the Queen the sex organ breaks off inside the Queen.

See this article: https://thebeeinfo.com/drone-bee-a-m...tire-life-153/


Man evolved in a tropical climate and is not well adapted to cold climates. Most of man's adaption to cold climates has to do with behavioral changes. But there has been some genetic adaptation in certain populations.

This article speaks to that subject: https://bigthink.com/surprising-scie...3#rebelltitem3
 
Old 05-16-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Speciation, the evolution of a new species (so called macroevolution), has been observed in real time despite internet claims to the contrary.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evoli...201_speciation

You would think that that would put an end to arguments against biological evolution.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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What evolutionary force taught the drone bees to explode when chasing to impregnate a Queen?
Your question (and motives) is suspect since you use the term "evolutionary force."

There is no force and the use of the word suggests you do not understand Evolution.

Biological cells randomly mutate at a known natural rate. Biological cells also undergo coerced mutation through the Photoelectric Effect or chemical reaction.

Radionuclides such as Uranium, Thorium, Barium, Lead, Bismuth, Iodine, Strontium and a host of others too numerous to mention exist in rock strata, which through the process of erosion by wind, water, and glacial action, ends up in a stream or creak flowing from a mountain or hill.

Mama bird with embryo in utero drinks from the creek and and ingests Strontium or something else.

That atom or atoms of a radionuclide will kick off an alpha, beta, gamma or x-ray particle or a fission fragment.

Such a particle with 1 MeV of energy will ionize 30,000 atoms in your body as it zips around.

To ionize an atom means the particle has struck an orbiting electron knocking it and altering the atom in a number of ways.

Should that happen in the gene that controls the color of feathers, it may result in feathers of another color.

So, baby bird is born with red feathers instead of brown feathers.

At that precise moment, the process of Natural Selection begins.

Baby bird will either survive and reproduce passing the "defective" gene that produces red feathers to its off-spring, or it will never reproduce because other birds don't like the red feathers, or a predator will kill it.

That, is Evolution.

Then again, the "defective" gene could be the one that controls the structure of the beak, so baby bird is born with a spoon-bill instead of a pointy beak.

Again, at that precise moment, the process of Natural Selection begins.

Maybe baby bird lives in an environment with muddy or sandy soil and the spoon-bill easily digs into it to provide food. And maybe baby bird reproduces and passes that "defective" gene onto its off-spring.

Or, maybe baby bird lives in an environment with hard or rocky soil and the spoon-bill is totally freaking useless and it dies unless it can find some other way to get food.

Again, that is Evolution.

Do let us know when you understand.

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Why is it that after thousands of years mammals (man) living in freezing environments cannot tolerate being thoroughly frozen and thawed back to life, though some beetles can?
That suggests you don't understand basic high school biology or chemistry.

When water freezes, it expands in volume. That's how pot-holes form. There's a defect in the road surface, it rains, water rests in the defect, temperatures drop below freezing, the water freezes and expands causing the road material to buckle, fracture, etc.

Mammals, avians, reptiles, amphibians have biological cells that contain water. The water freezes and expands breaking the cell membrane and killing the cell.

That's what frost-bite is about.

For many insects, the exterior integument is not living cells, rather it is a material known as chitin which is mostly Calcium, a mineral and not a biological cell.

If your skin was made of a hard material from Calcium instead of living biological cells, maybe you could be frozen and brought back to life, too.

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Why is it science thinks the earth has always spun the same speed for all of it's existence?
That suggests a poor understanding of physics and astronomy.

It has been widely known for decades that Earth's axial speed has slowed. It was, at one time, close to 23 hours and not the current 24+ hours.

Might I suggest you toss your library and update it with books from the 20th Century on.

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For a fact the tsunami that hit Indonesia effected the earth's rotation, as well as the tsunami that hit Japan in 2011.
You don't say.

It is also well-established that certain asteroid impacts have slowed Earth's rotation from time-to-time in the past.

Although you may not understand this, gravity is a vector force and the alignment of the other planets can also slow Earth's axial rotation.

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Speciation, the evolution of a new species (so called macroevolution), has been observed in real time despite internet claims to the contrary.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evoli...201_speciation

You would think that that would put an end to arguments against biological evolution.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
 
Old 05-16-2021, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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