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Old 09-14-2008, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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A massive switch from coal, oil, natural gas and nuclear power plants to solar power plants could supply 69 percent of the U.S.’s electricity and 35 percent of its total energy by 2050.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I find this "key concept" very interesting:
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A new direct-current power transmission backbone would deliver solar electricity across the country.
DC (Edison) was rejected in favor of AC (Tesla) because AC can travel much further, much more efficiently. I generally trust that the SciAm guys know what they're talking about, but I'm very curious about this.

That aside, I do think that they're being somewhat optimistic in their analysis.

Solar's good, though - but it should be paid for with private dollars as much as possible. I don't want the government paying "more than $400 billion" for a system that won't be completed for 40 years, and may be rendered obsolete before it even comes online.

Then there's the issue of infrastructure - they want to put all of this in the southwest, but use the electricity around the country. That delivery system will be extraordinarily expensive to build.

Finally, there's the issue of security. Not just the "terrorists could blow it up" kind of security, but the "what if it fails" or the "what if there's an earthquake that destroys it" kind of security. I rather like the fact that we have electricity being generated all over the country - I don't want all our eggs in one basket.

I say build more nuclear plants. Build them like there's no tomorrow. Put in solar where convenient or cost effective - same with wind, tidal, etc. - but we should be looking to nuclear for the next 50-100 years of our energy needs. It's a proven technology that provides a lot of power, with no "peaks and valleys" in output based on weather...
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It looks like your comments are addressed in the comment section, following the article. So far, I've only read the first 160 comments, but they seem to continue, indefinitely... I'll get back to them, later.
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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The most critical energy problem is the high price of gasoline. There are almost no alternatives, certainly not solar, so petroleum maintains a premium price over other energy sources. There is only one production natural gas automobile on the market, otherwise that might provide an alternative.
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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They are right on the principal but wrong on the timeline. By 2018 solar will be at parity with fossil fuels and 50% cheaper in the 2020's. My personal goal is to be totally off the electrical grid and on solar by 2020. I suspect we will be completely energy independent by 2030 at the latest.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:46 PM
 
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They are right on the principal but wrong on the timeline. By 2018 solar will be at parity with fossil fuels and 50% cheaper in the 2020's. My personal goal is to be totally off the electrical grid and on solar by 2020. I suspect we will be completely energy independent by 2030 at the latest.
//www.city-data.com/forum/tenne...see-story.html

Why not do it now?
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I live in a urban area and I own small business that I have to power as well. So for me its not cost effective now.

This is a better article on what is going on with solar versus fossil fuels.

If the trend continues for another 8-10 years, which seems increasingly likely, solar will be as cheap as coal with the added benefit of zero carbon emissions. If the cost continues to fall over the next 20 years, solar costs will be half that of coal. These predictions may in fact be too conservative given that First Solar have reported internal production costs of 75 cents (46 pence) per watt with an expectation of 50 cents (31 pence) per watt by 2016.

When applied to electricity prices this predicts that solar generated electricity in the US will descend to a level of 12 cents (7 pence) per kilowatt hour by 2020, possibly even 2015 for the sunniest parts of America.

The link: When Solar Becomes Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels | azizonomics
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