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Old 09-09-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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Did I quote or reference you? No.

You're mistaken if you think that the term "whitebread" is necessarily or exclusively a racial reference. Nor is it primarily a reference to racial exclusion, or segregation, but rather more likely to exclusion along income and cultural lines, which can result in a community in which most people are white. What "whitebread" does reference are homogeneity and lack of diversity.

Terms like "ghetto" or "slum", on the otherhand, particularly when frequently used by some to label whole cities, in my opinion, are none-too-subtle "dogwhistles" meant to convey to listeners that they might have to mix with undesirables (poor blacks, Asians, or Hispanics).
You didn't need to quote or reference.

So you dodge the point of my post by having the audacity to say that the term, "whitebread" has nothing to do with race? You say it's more about a lack of diversity? Diversity as opposed to what? I've never heard of a mostly black community said it lacks diversity. Same with asian or latino.

In my opinion, regardless of your tap-dancing, you dismissed any community that doesn't have lower income minorities as "whitebread" and "boring". Pretty easy to see that it's a racial comment...entirely.

Being disingenuous comes easy for some people.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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You didn't need to quote or reference.

So you dodge the point of my post by having the audacity to say that the term, "whitebread" has nothing to do with race? You say it's more about a lack of diversity? Diversity as opposed to what? I've never heard of a mostly black community said it lacks diversity. Same with asian or latino.

In my opinion, regardless of your tap-dancing, you dismissed any community that doesn't have lower income minorities as "whitebread" and "boring". Pretty easy to see that it's a racial comment...entirely.

Being disingenuous comes easy for some people.
If you'll examine my post, it did reference somebody, and it wasn't you. If you insist on reading it as applying to you, I really can't do anything about that.

In my opinion, "whitebread" communities are "boring", not because they are mostly or even all-white, but because they lack diversity and variety. You can take my word for that, or not. I really don't care.

While the Seattle area has minority-majority districts, there are no black-majority or Hispanic-majority districts. Asians, not blacks or Hispanics, are by far the largest minority here. I believe the only majority-Asian district is "Chinatown" - even North Beacon Hill, an area where Asians have traditionally lived (it was once called "Chopstick Hill"), is majority-minority, not majority-Asian.

Renton, by the way, has a majority-minority population, but only by a smidgen - "whites alone" make up 49.6% of its population. If you make allowance for white Hispanics, then it might very well be majority-white. Hispanics and blacks (alone), by the way, make up about 12% and 10% of Renton's population. Clearly not a "whitebread" community, but also clearly not a "slum".
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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If you'll examine my post, it did reference somebody, and it wasn't you. If you insist on reading it as applying to you, I really can't do anything about that.

In my opinion, "whitebread" communities are "boring", not because they are mostly or even all-white, but because they lack diversity and variety. You can take my word for that, or not. I really don't care.

While the Seattle area has minority-majority districts, there are no black-majority or Hispanic-majority districts. Asians, not blacks or Hispanics, are by far the largest minority here. I believe the only majority-Asian district is "Chinatown" - even North Beacon Hill, an area where Asians have traditionally lived (it was once called "Chopstick Hill"), is majority-minority, not majority-Asian.

Renton, by the way, has a majority-minority population, but only by a smidgen - "whites alone" make up 49.6% of its population. If you make allowance for white Hispanics, then it might very well be majority-white. Hispanics and blacks (alone), by the way, make up about 12% and 10% of Renton's population. Clearly not a "whitebread" community, but also clearly not a "slum".
There aren't quite no black-majority districts. There's my neighbor Bryn Mawr-Skyway, the only black-majority district north of California. Something like 31% Black, 28% Asian, 27% White, 8% Hispanic. It's also listed as having the third highest gay population in the state. This article is three years old, but it makes for a fun read:
Gay and black Washington: the interesting case of Bryn Mawr-Skyway | FYI Guy | Seattle Times
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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There aren't quite no black-majority districts. There's my neighbor Bryn Mawr-Skyway, the only black-majority district north of California. Something like 31% Black, 28% Asian, 27% White, 8% Hispanic. It's also listed as having the third highest gay population in the state. This article is three years old, but it makes for a fun read:
Gay and black Washington: the interesting case of Bryn Mawr-Skyway | FYI Guy | Seattle Times
That's a strongly minority-majority district (73%). 31% would be a plurality. 50%+ would be a majority.
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