Seattle´s Worst (Tacoma, Everett: low income, section 8, 2015)

[Frankums]

King County neighborhoods rather accurately reflect the meteorological climate: dull, overcast and culturally stagnant.

[iskray917]

I don't know how a neighborhood can be overcast, or a climate culturally stagnant

[LS35a]

Originally Posted by noexcuseforignorance

Ballard and Wallingford dangerous? Hahahaha. Seriously? You're neurotic. I leave my door unlocked a lot of the time.

You're living in a fantasy world.

Ballard and Wallingford aren't bad, but they certainly aren't good.

[Seattle 77]

People keep saying how "safe" Seattle is, well not so much. I've been here my whole life (since 1977). Capitol Hill, Central District, Pioneer Square, International District, Belltown, U - District, Rainier Valley = all places to avoid. While I have lived on Cap Hill since 1996, it's no place for families, no place for kids,yet a whole bunch of them recently showed up and are now bitching about how dangerous it is. HELLO - always has been!!! Do your homework! Seattle is NOT Mayberry, all though people from other cities keep on thinking it is, and yet are always surprised when crime happens. Seattle IS a city, with a very big drug problem. Odd decades are heroin problems and even decades are cocaine/meth problems. In case you missed the last 40 years, it's also high in serial killings and unsolved murder.
Lastly, Seattle Proper is only 11 miles long and 3 miles wide, and compared to NY, or LA, or Chicago, it may seem safer, but add in the size of it to it's crime rates, it's not as safe as it "seems".

[Rcsligar]

I think a good analysis of the city is as follows:
First off, I must say that I love Seattle and I was certainly pleased to find out that there are minimal "ghettos" compared to cities on the east coast. However, that doesn't mean that every area is desirable and obviously there will be pockets of riff raff, like anywhere else.

The way I look at it is (generally speaking), you have no reason to go to the far north and far south parts of the city. South Park, White Center, Aurora, and Lake City are not at all desirable in my opinion. Besides that, the areas south of downtown are less desirable than the areas that are just north. When my family and I were driving up there a couple months ago, we found Ballard, Wallingford, Eastlake, and to a lesser extent Fremont to be very desirable while we found the Intl. District, SoDo, Beacon Hill and Rainer Valley to be undesirable. That being said, I think the really pleasant neighborhoods are for the most part concentrated in pockets just north of the city. The bad areas in Seattle aren't terrible ghettos but still may be undesirable/industrial/slightly decayed with some derelicts mixed in. I think the only places where you will find real ghettoes are the burbs as well as Tacoma.

[Rcsligar]

Originally Posted by LS35a

You're living in a fantasy world.

Ballard and Wallingford aren't bad, but they certainly aren't good.

Ballard and Wallingford are two of the most desirable neighborhoods in the city... What constitutes a "good neighborhood" to you?

[branh0913]

Originally Posted by Rcsligar

I think a good analysis of the city is as follows:
First off, I must say that I love Seattle and I was certainly pleased to find out that there are minimal "ghettos" compared to cities on the east coast. However, that doesn't mean that every area is desirable and obviously there will be pockets of riff raff, like anywhere else.

The way I look at it is (generally speaking), you have no reason to go to the far north and far south parts of the city. South Park, White Center, Aurora, and Lake City are not at all desirable in my opinion. Besides that, the areas south of downtown are less desirable than the areas that are just north. When my family and I were driving up there a couple months ago, we found Ballard, Wallingford, Eastlake, and to a lesser extent Fremont to be very desirable while we found the Intl. District, SoDo, Beacon Hill and Rainer Valley to be undesirable. That being said, I think the really pleasant neighborhoods are for the most part concentrated in pockets just north of the city. The bad areas in Seattle aren't terrible ghettos but still may be undesirable/industrial/slightly decayed with some derelicts mixed in. I think the only places where you will find real ghettoes are the burbs as well as Tacoma.

Tacoma isn't even that bad. I'll go on record and say Seattle doesn't have any ghettos. As someone who grew up in the projects in the 80s early in life, there is no way in hell anything in Seattle or Tacoma compares. The few people in Seattle trying to act "hard" wouldn't last 2 seconds in a real ghetto out East. If anything, they're laughable. People say Seattle and Tacoma were bad at one time, but I'm pretty sure the element left the city long long ago. You can go into anywhere in Seattle or Tacoma and won't run into any problems. When people call an area bad, I just think they're psyching themselves out.

[GatsbyGatz]

Coming from Southen California, Seattle feels as dangerous as a shopping mall in SoCal. You can see bums and people who are obviously on drugs, but the violence level is tame in comparison.

For instance, I was in the UDistrict today. Practically child-friendly compared to Berkeley or LA.

[LowTune]

Seattle has one of the worst homeless problems of any developed city in the world. It's downtown is pretty bad, Tacoma and Everett can also be pretty bad in certain areas as well.

http://list25.com/25-cities-extremel...s-populations/

[RotseCherut]

Originally Posted by LowTune

Seattle has one of the worst homeless problems of any developed city in the world. It's downtown is pretty bad, Tacoma and Everett can also be pretty bad in certain areas as well.

http://list25.com/25-cities-extremel...s-populations/

Seattle has one of the most spoiled homeless populations in the country.. However, after being in Tacoma yesterday, I can attest that Tacoma has a "WORSE" homeless problem. I haven't hung around Tacoma in 2 years, but the lower downtown area is looking utterly depressing and very dilapidated. The homeless there looked much less healthy. Yes, I know that sounds funny, but most homeless I see in Seattle are fed well, clothed decently, but in Tacoma they look strung out, dirt poor and like they have a lot of s*** to deal with each day. I hung out with a homeless backpacker guy at coffeeshop in Tacoma a couple years back who showed me his knife wound he received by some psycho who stabbed him while he was sleeping under a bridge in Tacoma passing through.

And, I would take the grungy, smelly, spoiled and the few cuckoo homeless people we have in Seattle compared to the violent, cracked out and angry homeless people I encountered in Los Angeles and San Francisco. Even, Burnside Street in Portland had a much scarier homeless population than what I have seen in Seattle. People routinely got shot dead on Burnside St near the bridge and I would watch crack dealers use their own 5 or 6 year old kids as lookouts for them to make deals.