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Old 10-18-2012, 09:21 PM
 
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That's my view. They added trips on the South Line, and it resulted in higher ridership. But times are different, and so are the politicians, so they're going to reduce service on the north line.
Time would help, and so would other things. However, alot of people aren't patient.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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Additionally, the north line has problems the south line doesn't.
1) A couple times a winter, it is shut down from mudslides, or fear of mudslides, over the tracks.
2)It is also slower: Everett to Seattle takes 59 minutes. A similar distance from the south, Auburn to Seattle is 33 minutes.
3) Geographically, it is further from population density with less parking options. It doesn't make sense for a lot of potential riders to spend time getting west to Mukilteo or Edmonds to spend another 45 min on a train.

Going to the park and ride and taking the bus makes a lot more practical sense from the north.
The geographic part seems to be the biggest problem. I looked at the lines. They are misplaced. They need to follow I-5. It goes through more dense spaces.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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Well, those tracks were already in place long before the Sounder trains came along.

I guess for north of Seattle, ultimately the LR would be a better option as it can be built into and along the population centers. But that's going to be way down into the future.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Well, those tracks were already in place long before the Sounder trains came along.

I guess for north of Seattle, ultimately the LR would be a better option as it can be built into and along the population centers. But that's going to be way down into the future.
Is it possible to build new tracks?

I know it will be down the road in the future. That being said, light rail seems like a good idea.

This is how I look at Sound Transit, being an outsider. It started later, but I look at the Seattle area is being more progressive, and not having as much aversion to public transportation, as say, metropolitan Atlanta.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:52 PM
 
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Is it possible to build new tracks?

I know it will be down the road in the future. That being said, light rail seems like a good idea.

This is how I look at Sound Transit, being an outsider. It started later, but I look at the Seattle area is being more progressive, and not having as much aversion to public transportation, as say, metropolitan Atlanta.
You're kidding right? It's going to take Seattle 12 years to come up with a decision on whether they should put forward an idea about building new tracks, LOL. Then another couple years as they gotta come up with studies after studies about whether if its a good idea or not.

All the reason why LR looks really good-- the decision's already been made and there will be a line going up in that general area anyways.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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You're kidding right? It's going to take Seattle 12 years to come up with a decision on whether they should put forward an idea about building new tracks, LOL. Then another couple years as they gotta come up with studies after studies about whether if its a good idea or not.

All the reason why LR looks really good-- the decision's already been made and there will be a line going up in that general area anyways.
I don't know what else to think of.

Light rail seems like a good decision for the area. And if there is a line going up, then things are already a step up.

When I meant progressive, this is what I meant: When Atlanta came out with MARTA, it was meant to encompass more than 2 counties. It was suppose to be far more expansive than it is now. Only Fulton and DeKalb County approved. All of the other counties said NO. Reason? Well, many residents were leaving Atlanta and going to the suburbs. Some referred to MARTA as Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta. Very ironic because now those counties have substantial minority populations. Atlanta got started earlier than Seattle, but I don't see some of the same issues with mass transit as Seattle. Atlanta has basically stalled.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:42 PM
 
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Public transit here didn't stall because of racial bias... it had a lot to do with tax dollars, management and public trust.

There was suppose to be a monorail connecting West Seattle to DT Seattle (with hopes of connecting to Queen Anne, eventually Ballard and northward). That whole thing was a (clusterduff). And it does exemplify as to why Seattle had stalled on public transit early on.

With SoundTransit, it looked like at first it was heading that way... and somehow just came out right. Now they're actually efficient, under-budget and on time with their projects. People are at least happy about that... so now you have groups hoping to capitalize on that and get that line linking West Seattle back up but using LR instead. I think one of the posters here is part of that group (Ancalagon?). If the economy was better now, who knows how far it could go in the future.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:58 PM
 
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Public transit here didn't stall because of racial bias... it had a lot to do with tax dollars, management and public trust.
Part of my point. In Atlanta, racial bias was a major factor that I'm not seeing happen in Seattle.

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There was suppose to be a monorail connecting West Seattle to DT Seattle (with hopes of connecting to Queen Anne, eventually Ballard and northward). That whole thing was a (clusterduff). And it does exemplify as to why Seattle had stalled on public transit early on.
I'm wondering if Seattle today could build more monorails across the city.

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With SoundTransit, it looked like at first it was heading that way... and somehow just came out right. Now they're actually efficient, under-budget and on time with their projects. People are at least happy about that... so now you have groups hoping to capitalize on that and get that line linking West Seattle back up but using LR instead. I think one of the posters here is part of that group (Ancalagon?). If the economy was better now, who knows how far it could go in the future.
If Sound transit can run under budget, it is a wonder of how much more could be achieved going on-budget.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:21 PM
 
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There was suppose to be a monorail connecting West Seattle to DT Seattle (with hopes of connecting to Queen Anne, eventually Ballard and northward). That whole thing was a (clusterduff). And it does exemplify as to why Seattle had stalled on public transit early on.
Ya but...i'm not gonna lie, the rapidride C & D lines are pretty dang nice . I ride um every day and they almost get the job done except for not having dedicated bus lanes for on ramp and entire duration of the viaduct instead of like 3/5ths as it is now. They could've done it if they wanted to.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:54 PM
 
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Ya but...i'm not gonna lie, the rapidride C & D lines are pretty dang nice . I ride um every day and they almost get the job done except for not having dedicated bus lanes for on ramp and entire duration of the viaduct instead of like 3/5ths as it is now. They could've done it if they wanted to.
More reason for me to return to the Seattle area.
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