04-07-2013, 11:34 PM
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So I'm from Montana. Missoula Montana to be exact. I had a decent trip to Seattle for about 4 days and I drove there by car.
There are many confusing and disconcerting things though that happened which are majorly annoying. Firstly I'll admit I have some known registered disabilities where I have issues with direction. How do you become familiar with the roads around Seattle?
Then parking. At one parking garage downtown we ended up paying 30 dollars for 4 hours or parking around pikes place market. I asked some of my friends that live near Seattle and they said you could have parked like a half of a mile away for way less WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE but I don't really know these things.
In total Seattle is very confusing and while the public transportation seems good it also confuses the hell out of me lol.
Then many times I find myself losing track of my car and it takes a lot of time to find it on streets or in large parking lots etc.
Then at least for me driving like down that I-5 corridor around the Seattle area is scary in terms of traffic and crazy drivers.
How do people here cope with these problems? Will you get used to these things? How does all of this work? In total it was a great trip.
Lastly I forgot to ask; what about jobs? I do some development projects i.e. web design and software development i.e. it's something I know a lot about but I don't have a college degree; can you still get a job in Seattle without one relating to computer/development?
Thanks for all your help guys.
04-08-2013, 01:40 AM
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So I'm from Montana. Missoula Montana to be exact. I had a decent trip to Seattle for about 4 days and I drove there by car.
I drove here from New Jersey when I moved. Really nice ride across Idaho and through the Cascades if you took I-90
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There are many confusing and disconcerting things though that happened which are majorly annoying. Firstly I'll admit I have some known registered disabilities where I have issues with direction. How do you become familiar with the roads around Seattle?
Oh, Seattle roads...I love this town, but if I ever meet the man who planned things out, I'm punching him. No other place will be on a road that makes a thirty degree turn and suddenly change its name. My advise: Get a GPS! After a year or two you'll start to remember things.
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Then parking. At one parking garage downtown we ended up paying 30 dollars for 4 hours or parking around pikes place market. I asked some of my friends that live near Seattle and they said you could have parked like a half of a mile away for way less WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE but I don't really know these things.
Parking is something you learn as you go.
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In total Seattle is very confusing and while the public transportation seems good it also confuses the hell out of me lol.
That part is easy. Just go to the Metro trip planner and it will spit everything out for you. Just remember NOT to type in the town name and wait for it to prompt you after you hit enter:
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Then many times I find myself losing track of my car and it takes a lot of time to find it on streets or in large parking lots etc.
I would always hit the panic button on my car alarm.
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Then at least for me driving like down that I-5 corridor around the Seattle area is scary in terms of traffic and crazy drivers.
Antsy people trying to get to work from Issaquah is all. We have polite drivers...but they suck at driving. Just honk like hell and they'll get the idea.
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How do people here cope with these problems? Will you get used to these things? How does all of this work? In total it was a great trip.
Trust me, you'll get used to it.
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Lastly I forgot to ask; what about jobs? I do some development projects i.e. web design and software development i.e. it's something I know a lot about but I don't have a college degree; can you still get a job in Seattle without one relating to computer/development?
You could do freelance work or sign up for a smaller company. You should do fine as long as you have about three months worth of cash before you come here, or at least people you can slum with while you look for work. I would advise for you to get at least an AA after you've been here for two years or so and get residency. They aren't that expensive at our community colleges.
04-08-2013, 06:10 AM
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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When we moved here from the San Francisco Bay Area it took very little time to get used to the traffic, parking and all, because I had worked in downtown Oakland, and San Francisco, which were actually worse. I can see that in your case it could be overwhelming, but you would get used to it eventually. Some employers subsidize the bus pass, others do that and also provide free parking. If you have to pay to park, you are far better off driving to a park & ride and take the bus, the $6/day with free parking at the P & R is a lot better than spending an hour of your pay on parking every day.Once here, spending a few weekend days walking around will help a lot. The "crazy drivers" you describe are just normal people trying to navigate streets with signal lights and hoards of pedestrians every block, the same as any big city. Public transportation may get even more confusing, as they are threatening big route cuts due to budget issues. Most of us use a smartphone app called "One Bus Away" so that wherever you are you can see where the nearest bus stops and where it's going. Yes, most of the jobs are high tech. Yesterday's paper had 3 columns of ads for Microsoft openings. There are other jobs but fewer, and with more competition.
04-08-2013, 07:01 AM
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Yesterday's paper had 3 columns of ads for Microsoft openings. There are other jobs but fewer, and with more competition.
Do people still look at want ads in the newspaper?
04-08-2013, 01:05 PM
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Antsy people trying to get to work from Issaquah is all. We have polite drivers...but they suck at driving. Just honk like hell and they'll get the idea.
Spoken like a true New Jersey resident
I hate that about NJ...
04-08-2013, 01:31 PM
Location: Seattle area
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I always honk when some driver annoys me. A lot of times I prevent an accident by honking. There are many bad drivers who have no idea how to drive.
04-08-2013, 02:23 PM
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i have way too many speeding tickets so i have been driving pretty much at the speed limit these days.
of course yesterday morning on the way to church, a lady in an SUV behind me was tailgating me because i was "only" driving 5 miles above the speed limit. it was only one lane so when it became 2 lanes, she passed me and had to yell "a-hole" while she passed by. it was pleasant...
reminds me of driving in korea where i would stop at a red light at a 4 way intersection only to have the guy behind me honk at me and yell for me to just go because there are no cars around.
04-08-2013, 02:40 PM
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Spoken like a true New Jersey resident
I hate that about NJ...
Hey now! Some of us NJ natives are mellow and laid back, and are the ones that other people are honking at.
04-08-2013, 02:51 PM
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It sounds like you just got some big-city shock. Either you'll have to move here and get used to it, or ask yourself if you can/want to handle big city living or not. Living in the suburbs might make the transition easier for you, but even our suburbs are busy and a lot of them do deal with bad traffic.
Of course personally I am used to all these things and handle them just fine-- but it doesn't mean I like it. Just give it time and find ways that would help you. I personally do not like parking in DT Seattle, but know areas where I can find them (and you will too in time). Public transit is actually quite easy once you get the layout. As for traffic... well, who likes them? Bleh. Its ok to be a bad driver here; we have hordes of oblivious drivers here too, you'll blend in very well.
04-08-2013, 03:13 PM
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Seattle is confusing. If you lived here, you'd get used to it. I did. Driving to DT Seattle is not normally a fun experience, and parking makes it worse. If you lived here, you'd figure out which buses get you there, and take them. Taking the bus or the light rail is a lot less stressful than driving.
I also share that lovely habit of losing my car. Most recently I went to the movies at Southcenter Mall, parking on top of the parking garage. I was with my wife and 89 year old father. When the movie let out, we went outside and the car wasn't there. I'd heard about the crime in Tukwila and was ready to curse out the town. I knew we parked on the top floor, and looked everywhere. It wasn't there. Called the cops, they took the information, then noticed a mall security guy and he asked what was going on. I told him all the information, and he said " I think there's a 90% chance that I'll find your car." I led him to the area I thought I parked at. The car wasn't there, and he said " Follow me." We went back inside, and out again through a different door. And just a few spaces away was my car.
How did he know he'd find my car? I don't know. Maybe those mall cops just know everything.
In your case, not being able to find the car was maybe just the unfamiliarity with the big city.
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People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)