Seattle elects a socialist to the city council (Bellevue, Shoreline: neighborhoods, public schools)

[Andy]

Originally Posted by TrueTimbers

Me personally,,, I consider myself a "Socialist" of the northern European/Scandinavian flavor, as long as greed and the corruption rule the roost.

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Stay on our current path of greed and it is what we will get.... The United States of America will go down as nothing more than a bright but brief shooting star, that did not even last as long as the Roman Empire.

Socialism is a religion of greed. The socialists are the greediest of them all.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by BATCAT

That's interesting that you would consider USPS a "dismal failure".

Do the math. USPS is bleeding tons $. There are common sense fixes to stop the bleeding, but since USPS = corrupt & inefficient govt., those fixes have not been made.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by Andy

Do the math. USPS is bleeding tons $. There are common sense fixes to stop the bleeding, but since USPS = corrupt & inefficient govt., those fixes have not been made.

The USPS situation is a combination of factors including underfunding retirement benefits for decades then being given a very small time frame to cover the gap, the internet (much like newspapers) and being an easy target for the anti-government contingency (like teachers).

It was written into the Constitution in 1788 and is the best deal in town. If the USPS is socialism, then our forefathers were socialists.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Seacove

The USPS situation is a combination of factors including underfunding retirement benefits for decades then being given a very small time frame to cover the gap, the internet (much like newspapers) and being an easy target for the anti-government contingency (like teachers).

You mean teacher's unions? They are the easy target as they & the Democrats they have bought off are responsible for our failing public schools.


The USPS's bleeding can be greatly reduced, but crony govt. will not let that happen. Anyone who thought ObamaCare would work is an idiot. Big crony govt. can not work. It is impossible! It isn't knowledgeable, flexible, or directly rooted into daily human life.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by Andy

You mean teacher's unions? They are the easy target as they & the Democrats they have bought off are responsible for our failing public schools.


The USPS's bleeding can be greatly reduced, but crony govt. will not let that happen. Anyone who thought ObamaCare would work is an idiot. Big crony govt. can not work. It is impossible! It isn't knowledgeable, flexible, or directly rooted into daily human life.

I know, teachers are evil and so are mailmen, right?

I don't think health insurance that was already increasing exponentially every year and patients who were getting canceled as soon as they got sick and made claims was working either.

Nor do I think a person who had health insurance for years and got sick, should lose everything and be foreclosed because the insurance company decided (after years of happily taking their money) that their illness was a pre-existing condition.

Nor do I think it serves the economy that employees never change jobs even if they want to because they fear losing their health insurance.

Health care is not like car insurance. If you don't or can't drive a car, you can take the bus. But if you get sick, you cannot borrow another body.

I hope we figure it out and I have high hopes that Washington state figures it out before the other states - we have the exchange and apparently the website works better than most states already. I think the availability of health care for everyone is a good goal to have, we just need to figure it out and hopefully we will over time.

[branh0913]

Socialism is the new thing that "educated" liberals like to get behind. Of course it doesn't work, but they always say "well that wasn't REAL socialism" or "you're an idiot, you weren't educated in socialism". I for one spent many years as a proud Marxist, and read a ton of material i.e socialist propaganda. In either case, once I got deep into my education concerning socialism, I started to realize how stupid it was.

Then I found out one thing, MOST people in America (especially socialist) are less educated as to what capitalism is. People think socialism is misrepresented and misunderstood, but I've found people in general have no IDEA what capitalism actually is or even how it works. The difference is that when you bash socialism (which has been proven time and time again not to work), people will trip over themselves trying to defend it to you. Bash capitalism, and well, people will mainly agree. Even those not far on the left.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by branh0913

Socialism is the new thing that "educated" liberals like to get behind. Of course it doesn't work, but they always say "well that wasn't REAL socialism" or "you're an idiot, you weren't educated in socialism". I for one spent many years as a proud Marxist, and read a ton of material i.e socialist propaganda. In either case, once I got deep into my education concerning socialism, I started to realize how stupid it was.

Well you've moved to California so you don't have to worry about Washington State anymore. Our "educated" populace is considered pretty "educated" by some recent measures, not that it matters. It seems lately the only "education" that is valued is the "education" that they agree with.

You now can focus on the "educated" populace of the Bay Area. I was responding to a poster trashing the USPS as socialism when it is in the Constitution. I'm concerned about Washington State specifically, not broad politics which belongs in the political forum.

[west seattle gal]

Originally Posted by Andy

False. In America, left = control, right = freedom. Fascism is control. Woodrow Wilson was our first fascist president.

The modern day American progressives are the intellectual descendants of the early 20th century American fascists.

Absolutely hilarious. We must live in different countries.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by west seattle gal

Absolutely hilarious. We must live in different countries.

Actually scary. I thought the right desires to control how individuals use their bodies.

[TrueTimbers]

Originally Posted by Andy

Socialism is a religion of greed. The socialists are the greediest of them all.

Silly... I had began to think you might be intelligent...

Greedy? How is giving back part of what you have taken for the betterment of all greedy...LOL

OK we have a hockey player who makes $1,000,000 and we have a person who is a street sweeper he makes $10,000.

Both get a speeding ticket. Lets say the penalty in the USA is $100. Which is a heck of a lot more to the street sweeper than the hockey player.

A socialist mindset is to say the penalty is 1% of their income. The street sweeper pays $10 and the hockey player pays $1,000 for the penalty. Equal amounts to each party...

You do not even know how Scandinavian and Northern European systems of government work do you????????


Religion and greed... sorry you can can not use your boiler plate answer to everything you disagree with on this one....

You are just scared of what you do not understand... Either that or just a taker and not a giver..