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Atlanta is a practical political place. It's because of it's diversity and it's history. You have everyone there, who has been representative of Atlanta for a very long time. So you get better integration because the history is there. It was the center of the Civil Rights movement for example. So it's liberal politics are just more down to earth and practical. And it's balanced with enough opposition for things not to get out of control. Different people of different ethnic backgrounds have different political affiliation. You will never find black conservatives, republicans, and libertarians in a place like Seattle. But it's not entirely uncommon in Atlanta. The same with other minorities.
Seattle is different. It doesn't have the really grass roots American history you find in a southeastern city like Atlanta. It isn't tied to mainstream American heritage and history. It's no surprise that I've found some of the most ignorant people about history in Seattle and San Francisco. Seattle is basically a utopian progressive city. A city that is a living though experiment by intellectuals and educated fools. That is why philsophical and political morality persist there. It's a city hijacked by progressive ideology without the proper counter balance like you'll find in Atlanta.
And let's be honest, politically Atlanta and economically Atlanta is a far more relevant city in Seattle. NYSE could be coming to Atlanta. It would never go to a city like Seattle.
Again, Seattle seems very distant from American culture, while Atlanta is a very important piece of American culture and history. Seattle is a breeding group for pseudo intellects because it's not a place with a good sense of Americanism. Damn shame, Seattle could stand to be a lot more of an American city.
+1 to SeaTown and Branh.. I think they more or less explained the problems I have found in this city with the people. People here are militant liberal, close-minded and extremely intolerant of anybody who accepts any other type of ideology or have any other type of viewpoints or beliefs that go outside of their psycho-leftist creed. Whereas people in other places may disagree with you in a friendly manner on political, social or religious subejcts, in Seattle if you disagree, it means you are "The Enemy". Even in rural Idaho I never encountered such an "Us Vs Them" mentality. I could see Obama signs on people's houses in rural Idaho towns and nobody would burn their house down. I cannot say the same for Seattle if someone had Romney signs on their homes during the last election.
The place is a refugee to ultra-lefist zealots, socialists/communists, religion-hating atheists (not the open-minded kind), psuedo-intellectuals with a major better-than-thou attitude, etc who think Seattle will be their utopia and will do all in their power to drive out any opposition to their ultra-liberal socialist heaven.
The Co-Exist sticker is what makes me laugh most of all. These same people are some of the most bigoted, judgmental, close-minded and arrogant that I have met and all their friends and associates are people who think, look and act just like them.
+1 to SeaTown and Branh.. I think they more or less explained the problems I have found in this city with the people. People here are militant liberal, close-minded and extremely intolerant of anybody who accepts any other type of ideology or have any other type of viewpoints or beliefs that go outside of their psycho-leftist creed. Whereas people in other places may disagree with you in a friendly manner on political, social or religious subejcts, in Seattle if you disagree, it means you are "The Enemy". Even in rural Idaho I never encountered such an "Us Vs Them" mentality. I could see Obama signs on people's houses in rural Idaho towns and nobody would burn their house down. I cannot say the same for Seattle if someone had Romney signs on their homes during the last election.
The place is a refugee to ultra-lefist zealots, socialists/communists, religion-hating atheists (not the open-minded kind), psuedo-intellectuals with a major better-than-thou attitude, etc who think Seattle will be their utopia and will do all in their power to drive out any opposition to their ultra-liberal socialist heaven.
The Co-Exist sticker is what makes me laugh most of all. These same people are some of the most bigoted, judgmental, close-minded and arrogant that I have met and all their friends and associates are people who think, look and act just like them.
To be fair, I did see Romney For President yard signs in Seattle, and did not hear of anybody's house burning down as a result of this. And there were neighborhoods in Seattle where Romney won more votes than Obama, and some where he came close. Seattle did elect a Socialist to the City Council this election. But I don't think it's because most of the voters are Socialist. They're not. She got elected because she wasn't Richard Conlin. Politics makes strange bedfellows. The group supporting the new basketball arena had him targeted because he voted against it. They would've supported Pol Pot, Idi Amin, or Adolph Hitler if they were running against Conlin. It didn't even matter that Sawant shared Conlin's views on the arena.
To be fair, I did see Romney For President yard signs in Seattle, and did not hear of anybody's house burning down as a result of this. And there were neighborhoods in Seattle where Romney won more votes than Obama, and some where he came close. Seattle did elect a Socialist to the City Council this election. But I don't think it's because most of the voters are Socialist. They're not. She got elected because she wasn't Richard Conlin. Politics makes strange bedfellows. The group supporting the new basketball arena had him targeted because he voted against it. They would've supported Pol Pot, Idi Amin, or Adolph Hitler if they were running against Conlin. It didn't even matter that Sawant shared Conlin's views on the arena.
I am curious as to how many neighborhoods and what percentage of the population voted Republican in the city of Seattle proper..
From this graphic image, it appears only one lesser populated precinct (not even a neighborhood) voted for Rob McKenna for govenor in the last election. Two other precincts were virtually tied, where as every other precinct went for the liberal Jay Inslee for govenor:
I'm still trying to find a map to prove that entire neighborhoods in Seattle voted for Romney.. I doubt it.
I apologize. I'm wrong. I didn't mean an entire neighborhood. I don't think there were entire neighborhoods that did( maybe Harrison Park?)But I'm sure there were parts of Madison Park, and Magnolia, for example, that voted for Romney.
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Wow this place got heated. ...
It must be winter in Seattle and people have more time at the keyboard to rant.
BEWARE... the SEA board is looking a lot like the Portland and Oregon board where a dissenting opinion is never acceptable. (Historically Great C-D posters (from WA) have been banned for that... making a point /counter point in Oregon forum). Don't go south of the border, or condescend to that level of intolerance.
Please keep WA forum as an open mind, open opinion; freedom to express either, and learn from both.
I couldn't deal with living in Seattle or Atlanta, but don't feel it is necessary to condemn those who do (tho I admittedly don't like their (sole) vote controlling my state and my employees and my businesses... but... that is life in WA and I will be moving out of state when politically WA constrains my businesses to the point I need to move to be profitable.)
For most farmers... that came when Christine was building out her Dept of Ecology Empire. (job prior to her last job)
For employers, the price of doing business is high in WA, some industries can bear that expense, others can't. This is not a problem they have in Atlanta. That is a VERY different place than Seattle!
As someone whose political leanings shifted after living in a place that was much more one way than the other, I understand the sentiment.
We are all free to find our happy places, places that make us feel good, places that we don't have to complain about. It may even be true, that once we find those places, that there will still be plenty to disagree with, or even be uncomfortable with. Furthermore, even in "hostile" territory, we can still find like-minded friends, or even become besties with somebody from "the other side".
To me, it's just splitting hairs. I can find something I don't like about everybody and everything if I want to see it bad enough.
If somebody doesn't like you for some reason, it's their problem. So don't give yourself problems.
Wow this place got heated. I'll chime in with my perspective.
I'm a minority who grew up in the Midwest, in a relatively conservative metro (Detroit). It's not as conservative as say, Dallas or Houston, but it's far more conservative than Seattle (which is probably the most liberal metro in America). Metro Detroit probably mirrors metro Atlanta in politics. A very Blue city core with 60/40 suburbs that lean Red.
For me, Seattle's suburbs weren't a huge culture shock. People are more socially-liberal and tend to vote blue, but for the most part they are center-leaning-left. In metro Detroit, most folks voted Republican and were center-leaning-right. Both cities have most white, upper-middle class suburbs with a healthy bit of minorities like myself (Seattle has more). The biggest difference I've noticed is that in metro Detroit, if somebody is white, you can safely assume they are Christian. Out here that's not at given.
But the city of Seattle has been a huge culture shock for me. People there are raging leftists. Once my buddies and I took a stroll down Broadway in Capitol Hill and I'll just say it wasn't a place for me. In Seattle liberals are constantly in your face. If it's known you voted Republican, or even worse, are socially-conservative, you're a dead man walking. People aren't going around asking you about your political beliefs, but if you're conservative don't let it be known. Once I moved here it became clear which side of the political spectrum is more "intolerant."
I've lived in the south where it is the Christian right that is constantly in your face, where if you are not a white, heterosexual Christian you are treated like dirt.
I've lived in the south where it is the Christian right that is constantly in your face, where if you are not a white, heterosexual Christian you are treated like dirt.
Exactly. The only ranting I see here are the right-wingers who basically use any Seattle post to rant politically against Seattle. Poster:How's the weather in Seattle?Response: It's wet! Because the liberals bring all the rain!
Hey, I'm liberal, progressive, whatever and I fit here perfectly. There has to be someplace for us to go and let's face it, liberals have great taste in geography. We love the best parts of the coast, Boulder's probably the prettiest part of Colorado, Austin is probably the best part of Texas (being generous here) and so on. And I don't think these beautiful places would look the same if they were controlled by a party that has little interest in the environment.
I mentioned that Highlands Ranch was purple; too purple for us and we left. When you read the small handful of posters here who rant to such a degree, one can't help but wonder why they stay when they are so clearly unhappy. My perception of Atlanta is a little different than some describe here, but I do think it's pretty and places like Buckhead are sort of funny with the dress codes and such. But that's because in the PNW, clothes are not an obvious indicator of wealth (it takes a discerning eye to notice the cargo shorts and triclimate jacket are expensive).
Let me just say that apparently yesterday there was some show about ducks or duck callers, whatever, where a guy likened gays to beastiality and terrorists(!). The show took him off and hey, I don't care, I don't watch it. But of course complaints of intolerance and freedom of speech followed.
I wonder if this is the way people talked about mixed marriages and civil rights in the 60s. They wanted the right to say these terrible things and keep making the person that was not like them as evil as possible, thus likening them to perverts and murderers. Our family may look as text book traditional as they come, but I like living in a place where talking like is not appreciated. Especially since I know gays who's kindness, intelligence, creativity and class often far exceed the average and who's charitable works are commendable. Trying to make them seem evil because they are not like you is not what I would call "tolerance" and reminds me once again why I love living here.
I've lived in the south where it is the Christian right that is constantly in your face, where if you are not a white, heterosexual Christian you are treated like dirt.
Ah, there it is...thanks Seattlerain....I was waiting for someone to point this out....gosh it has been horrible and hard on me here in the south and I am by no means an outright liberal....but according to these people I am going straight to hell.... Okay...whatever.....I will wait for my judgment day....hey southerners....."I fed your dogs when they were starving on the end of a chain, I gave your dogs water when they were parched in the 100 degree heat with no shade, I petted your dogs when they flinched thinking I was going to hurt them...." Well, if all dogs go to heaven, I think I just might be okay then and my husband and I are so anxious to land in Seattle this spring......it will be a refreshing change for us......
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That is a VERY different place than Seattle!
Okay...whatever.....I will wait for my judgment day....hey southerners....."I fed your dogs when they were starving on the end of a chain, I gave your dogs water when they were parched in the 100 degree heat with no shade, I petted your dogs when they flinched thinking I was going to hurt them...." Well, if all dogs go to heaven, I think I just might be okay then and my husband and I are so anxious to land in Seattle this spring......it will be a refreshing change for us......
