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Old 03-07-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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I agree completely with Seacove and I am a Texan. It is uncommon here (in Houston at least) to see someone walking around toting a gun, and if I saw it I would get away as fast as I could. A person who has to carry a gun around all the time to "feel safe" is the one I'm afraid of. What kind of person chooses a place to live based on gun laws?

Three kids shot within the last week alone in Houston, by the way, by guns lying around the house. Two died.
Thanks fnh, and I'm not against Texans (my parents are too) but the guns are completely over the top. And that's why I wouldn't let my kids around a home with guns. Those accidents are far far too frequent.

Loaded guns falling on the floor in Target? Insanity. NoThankYou.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: texas
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Every one is entitled to their own opinions. i would be willing to move to washington as long as they did not ban ownership of guns. That was my concern.
this has turned in to a debate on weapons when i had no intention of causing that. I only wanted information from those who live there or been to the seattle area.
no one has mentioned the cost of diesel yet.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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Every one is entitled to their own opinions. i would be willing to move to washington as long as they did not ban ownership of guns. That was my concern.
this has turned in to a debate on weapons when i had no intention of causing that. I only wanted information from those who live there or been to the seattle area.
no one has mentioned the cost of diesel yet.
Just giving a fuller perspective. While a handful may go "Yeah, Murrica!", others will smile politely when they meet you and you'll never know more of them (and may wonder why). I'm speaking Western Washington side. Eastern Washington is more like Idaho and you might love it there, plus its far less crowded.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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Sorry, not a fan of Texans with their guns coming to Washington State. If I see someone carrying a gun in a store, I will drop the goods, park the cart, whatever and leave the store. This isn't the OK Corral. It is not common to see people walking around with a gun here. And if our kids friend's parents have guns, we don't allow them over to their house. I think people that think they can't mail a letter without a gun at the ready are more dangerous. While the gun lovers (and I can name them) will be most likely to reply to the OP because it was their number one requirement, I'm far from alone here in Seattle.

Call me a liberal, I wear the label proudly, but I'm where I belong in Seattle.
No, you are definitely not alone. I don't like guns either. Even cops with guns make me a little nervous... but so does my garbage disposal and chef's knife.

That said, I did grow up amongst many a gun owner and interestingly, a surprising number of them are rather liberal in their politics. None of the people *I* knew were irresponsible with their firearms. They kept them locked. They were used for hunting and going out to the target ranges. A few of them carried concealed. They work as engineers, in HR departments, real estate, hospitals...

Personally, I think the risk of running into "trouble makers" can be highly mitigated by not migrating into known risky areas of a city. I think for many there is a substantial error in perception of risk versus actual likelihood of needing to fire a gun. That part irritates me...

But shooting targets is fun. Archery was my favorite camp sport
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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I understand flyingsaucermom, I do, my family's discomfort with guns is mitigated by not being around them and avoiding people who think they can't shop for groceries without one. If a retailer loses my business because a customer was carrying a gun, then they can figure it out.

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Old 03-07-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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I understand flyingsaucermom, I do, but my family's discomfort with guns is mitigated by not being around them and avoiding people who think they can't shop for groceries without one. If a retailer loses my business because a customer was carrying a gun, then they can figure it out. <Started a rant, deleted it, whew!>
The Target guy was dangerous. He was young, and judging from appearances, not of a particularly educated class. The event happened within 72 hours of Sandy Hook and it seemed to me that he was being reactionary to the mood and conversation of the country at the moment. If I hadn't been on my way out, I would have also dropped everything and fled.

But if I was at the grocery store and "Dave" and "Chuck" came in with their concealed guns, two guys I've known nearly all my life: stable family men that are involved in their communities. I would say hi, ask about the family, the new boat perhaps, and then continue on my merry way collecting my groceries.

Context matters a lot to me and for that reason it's unlikely that I'm going to make too many blanket statements and judgement....
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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Totally understand. The problem is reactionary guy, "Dave" and "Chuck" all look the same to a stranger. And to your point, I agree, even an armed police officer doesn't thrill me, but the stranger with a gun on his hip? I quietly depart.
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
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Currently in my area diesel is running from $2.94 - $3.19
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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One thing to keep in mind as you're considering this area is that the Seattle area exists on a relatively narrow strip of land hemmed in on one side by the Cascade Mountains, and on the other by Puget Sound. There is a 20 mile long lake right in the middle of the city (which is only one of many lakes). Builders can't build if there isn't land. It's one of the reasons housing is so painfully tight - there is only so much (buildable) space and millions of people to fit into it. It's also a big reason our streets don't make sense and our traffic is horribly frustrating. You will simply not find Texas sized lots here, and if you do - you will pay dearly for it unless it is accompanied by a rather painful commute. You may find you need to adjust your mindset a bit regarding the value of land.
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: texas
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One thing to keep in mind as you're considering this area is that the Seattle area exists on a relatively narrow strip of land hemmed in on one side by the Cascade Mountains, and on the other by Puget Sound. There is a 20 mile long lake right in the middle of the city (which is only one of many lakes). Builders can't build if there isn't land. It's one of the reasons housing is so painfully tight - there is only so much (buildable) space and millions of people to fit into it. It's also a big reason our streets don't make sense and our traffic is horribly frustrating. You will simply not find Texas sized lots here, and if you do - you will pay dearly for it unless it is accompanied by a rather painful commute. You may find you need to adjust your mindset a bit regarding the value of land.
Thank you very much for pointing this out. We will definitely have to discuss the fact that we will have to sacrifice space.
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