04-27-2015, 08:42 AM
Location: Bothell, Washington
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The Seattle area real estate market is actually a bunch of different markets, which don't act the same. Seattle north of I-90 is the most frothy. Bellevue, Kirkland, Sammamish, and Issaquah are also quite heated right now. Edmonds, Bothell, Renton, etc are a little less so. Tukwila, Auburn, Bonney Lake, etc are nowhere near the frenzy of these other places.
Bothell is actually very heated right now. It's nice, clean, in a good location for commutes to the east side- so it is hot. Houses in my area of Bothell are only lasting 1-2 weeks on the market, sometimes even less.
04-27-2015, 08:54 AM
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Bothell is actually very heated right now. It's nice, clean, in a good location for commutes to the east side- so it is hot. Houses in my area of Bothell are only lasting 1-2 weeks on the market, sometimes even less.
I think the metro is just tight right now. I did a search on Woodinville, east of 522 all the way to Duvall, between $400K-$600K and there were only ten listed. Ten for that huge area.
Bothell has more but many are new(ish) and will go quickly. It's spring and everyone is making plans for moves before the next school year, so it will probably get worse this summer.
https://www.redfin.com/city/16163/WA...market=seattle
04-27-2015, 08:58 AM
Location: Seattle
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My experience, after doing this 15 years, is that the time of year doesn't really matter. Summer equals more buyers but more listings. Winter, fewer homes, fewer buyers. I keep saying, you just need one. The homes are getting snapped up, somebody's getting them. Research, prepare, be decisive.
04-27-2015, 10:37 AM
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Karch, one of the very sad parts of this relates (although not in the same way) to what you said. This area is truly getting very tough for low to middle income people to afford. It wasn't like that when I got here 25 years ago, I fear it isn't going to return. Besides having to move farther and farther out or leave town, there seem to be more and more people slipping through the cracks and even ending up in some of the homeless camps and shelters. There are a lot of ways to go broke in this country. For those doing well, this town is booming. Many are getting left behind, though.
Both Ms. BATCAT and I moved here in the late 90's, took on crappy jobs, and over the last 15 years or so we've managed to claw our way into some semblance of respectability. Despite now being middle-class, middle-aged DINKS, we're feeling the squeeze. We're currently renting, and love being centrally-located... we'd be fine with something
really small in the CD or maybe Beacon Hill, but even these seem to be going for more than we could do right now. We could, in theory, move
way further out and deal with the commute, but I think we'd hate living way out somewhere, and buying a home in an area you don't like just for the sake of becoming a homeowner seems ill-advised, especially given that this seems to be a hell of a time to buy if we might sell later.
I'm not complaining; I know we're actually really fortunate, but in light of where I hoped we'd be by now, I
am a little discouraged. Despite our incomes increasing over the last five years we've lived together, rents are increasing faster- we've been squeezed into progressively smaller and humbler apartments.
Having kind of thrown in the towel on buying in Seattle, we've actually been considering buying something really small/modest/inexpensive in Eastern WA, and treating it as a renovation project/getaway/investment over the next 25 years or so, then potentially retiring there... and in the meantime, just renting what we can afford, as close to work as we are able...
04-27-2015, 11:27 AM
Location: Seattle
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BATCAT, I feel you. I've thought Roslyn would be a good place for that. Neat little town still within reach for trips back to Seattle.
04-27-2015, 11:52 AM
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BATCAT, I feel you. I've thought Roslyn would be a good place for that. Neat little town still within reach for trips back to Seattle.
We're thinking of starting to make some exploratory trips to different towns in Eastern WA in 2016, try to find where we like it best, and then see about the possibility of buying. There seem to be a lot of larger homes out there, and we'd be find with something like a small and modest two-bed/1.5 bath with a tiny yard, so I'm hoping that will give us an advantage.
Thanks for the suggestion- I haven't checked out Roslyn yet.
04-27-2015, 12:01 PM
Location: Seattle
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I like Roslyn, interesting history. If Snoqualmie Pass is clear, you can be to Seattle in a hour and a half. Beautiful rivers and mountains over there too. It is true that there are some expensive ranches and chalets, but there are also relatively modestly prices historic homes near the town center, and even cheaper just beyond in a little blip called Ronald. The town has a great little arts scene, interesting characters roaming about. All in all, way to far to commute to Seattle but for your purposes, maybe perfect. The fact that it is within reach of Seattle is great.
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04-28-2015, 05:52 PM
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The Seattle area real estate market is actually a bunch of different markets, which don't act the same. Seattle north of I-90 is the most frothy. Bellevue, Kirkland, Sammamish, and Issaquah are also quite heated right now. Edmonds, Bothell, Renton, etc are a little less so. Tukwila, Auburn, Bonney Lake, etc are nowhere near the frenzy of these other places.
I guarantee you that anyone buying north of I-90 is making the same assumption I did when I rented up there: that the niceness of the area wins out. Either that or they work in the area. If they work there, it's a dream. If they work in Seattle, they'll learn, and I promise you they'll move within 3 years.
Until the 522 "freeway" develops beyond its current "might as well be a city street" level, areas like Woodinville and Bothell will never be viable for going to Seattle. I speak from experience. And even if it did develop out, they'd just throw tolls on it and negate any potential benefits.
I'm in Auburn right now and while I do like my home, now that I work from home rather than commuting, I've thought about buying in Kennewick or Pasco, or even going all the way to Spokane. I also considered Brinnon, but I don't know that I could work with being that far from civilization and it seems there really isn't any development or improvements in that area.
04-28-2015, 06:00 PM
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Gotta disagree with you, relevated. I have a number of clients who bought homes in Bothell, Kenmore who commute into Seattle daily on 522/Lake City Way (sometimes using a quick jump west on 145th to the freeway) and are happy as clams.
04-28-2015, 06:08 PM
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Gotta disagree with you, relevated. I have a number of clients who bought homes in Bothell, Kenmore who commute into Seattle daily on 522/Lake City Way (sometimes using a quick jump west on 145th to the freeway) and are happy as clams.
Agree, I know several who commute from Bothell and Woodinville to Seattle. I've always preferred the north area, it just feels more open and new IMO.
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People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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