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Expdxer: Haha I'm 27 - started working as an HR Assistant 2 months after high school graduation, and worked full time as a Recruiter and then started as a Generalist while I did my Bachelors Degree nights and weekends. Since only my university, not high school, are on my resume I assume it's likely they think I'm older than 27...but 9 years of experience really shouldn't label me as older than early 30's. I have money because I trade commodities periodically and am naturally a saver.
If you're serious about wanting to look in Seattle - not that I'd recommend it - maybe get a local VoIP number and put a friend's address on your CV? I've hired a few people who have done that - appreciated the effort.
Yeah, the unanswered question. How old are you? Age discrimination is alive and well. Seattle is a "young" town, with many of the major employers with a rep for preferring 30-somethings or younger.
I'd create two resumes. One for a mid-level job in a company that would be a good company to work for and provide opportunities for advancement, stressing accomplishments achieved and tasks completed. The other for a managerial job, stressing responsibilities undertaken and benchmarks met. Keep track of which job got which resume. Don't push "experience" (which means "wants mo' money"), but ability and desire to tackle new challenges. If age is an issue, scrub both to eliminate any give-aways, such as graduation dates, etc. Limit how far back you go - a job from 30 years ago will tab you as likely being over 50.
Also, see if you can snag some contract or temporary jobs. A lot of larger employers will convert a contractor before hiring someone fresh. It'll also help fill-in the recent "gap".
I'd hire a resume specialist, rather than just showing it to another HR professional. As an HR professional, you might have a big blind spot. There would seem to be something in it that is turning off prospective employers.
I was wondering how the process was like with you when you applied out of state. Could you shed some light with the hiring process or just anything you deem as fitting? I too am checking indeed to get a feel for the jobs there in Seattle, but because of my current employment situation, may have difficulty finding time to interview; if it ever gets to that point.
Thanks.
Well honestly, not to discredit myself or anything, but a big part of why I got hired was because the company is small and really wanted someone trusting for the position I'm in.
Although I got around 10 interviews, 2 of them offered, and I took 1.
I applied to a crap load of jobs because since I'm on the entry level side, I was less picky than most others, which was probably why I got a job so quickly because I was less picky.
I applied to at least 5 jobs a day and did interviews over the phone and Skype.
@CrazyDonkey - good idea regarding the resume specialist.
Also I'll try chopping off a few years so it looks like 7 years instead of 9, and take out the more advanced-sounding aspects like M&A change management, vendor management and executive-level coaching.
I'm amused by several of you thinking I'm 40+ simply because irl I've been mistaken for every age between 15 and 40 (seriously, to the extent that they argue with me when I tell them my age. I think it depends what I'm wearing. Anyone else ever get this?) To me, 9 years of experience would imply someone not much older than early 30's unless there's a career change involved, but looking over it again I do sound kind of old. Good insight, I appreciate it.
I'd be very happy doing contract work; my last two roles were consulting on a contract basis which was awesome.
So confession time - was a bit bored today so I made a very junior resume (only kept my last two roles, replaced the word "consultant" with "assistant," and only listed the more administrative tasks I did ie. conducted prescreens, ran reports, checked over compensation & benefit plans.) Applied to 5 HR Admin roles off of Craigslist in the morning and got a call back for two in the afternoon. So for any other out-of-towner who's reading this, this obviously scientifically-sound experiment implies that the entry-level job market is pretty robust.)
Well honestly, not to discredit myself or anything, but a big part of why I got hired was because the company is small and really wanted someone trusting for the position I'm in.
Although I got around 10 interviews, 2 of them offered, and I took 1.
I applied to a crap load of jobs because since I'm on the entry level side, I was less picky than most others, which was probably why I got a job so quickly because I was less picky.
I applied to at least 5 jobs a day and did interviews over the phone and Skype.
I hope I helped?
Yes, I.am curious if they started off with a few phone interviews or what not? Did you arrange the face to face interviews together since you were traveling from out of state? I am in a similar situation as I will probably start applying and seeing what interviews I get. I don‘t want to waste time, but am on the fence of fully committing my move to Seattle. Was just curious what the general practice was up there. thanks
Yes, I.am curious if they started off with a few phone interviews or what not? Did you arrange the face to face interviews together since you were traveling from out of state? I am in a similar situation as I will probably start applying and seeing what interviews I get. I don‘t want to waste time, but am on the fence of fully committing my move to Seattle. Was just curious what the general practice was up there. thanks
I didn't have a face-to-face interview. The job I have now actually hired me without even seeing my face on Skype, facebook, or anything.
The other job offer I had, I went through 2 Skype interviews. For these entry level-mid level positions they usually do an initial phone screen (regardless of whether you're local or not). What I did was just follow up and email them after the phone screen a few days after if I didn't hear from them. I did that with every interview.
I didn't have a face-to-face interview. The job I have now actually hired me without even seeing my face on Skype, facebook, or anything.
The other job offer I had, I went through 2 Skype interviews. For these entry level-mid level positions they usually do an initial phone screen (regardless of whether you're local or not). What I did was just follow up and email them after the phone screen a few days after if I didn't hear from them. I did that with every interview.
Thank you for your insight. I guess the job market is pretty robust and perhaps the turn-over to be somewhat high? Just the type of vibe I'm getting from reading the post here. Was there a few weeks ago on a travel trip sort of speak; skimmed indeed for jobs and thought about trying to start life over there. Easier said than done though as I'm not sure how I stack up against others, though I know it's pretty competitive! My biggest concern is landing something concrete though an out of state interview/hiring process and having the employer change out on me. I'll probably start my own thread later. Thanks again.
@Legacy Bear - what field, industry, and career level are you looking to get into? That'll largely determine whether or not you can get hired from out of state.
Is it just about too much experience or is age discrimination a factor? I know we don't know the age of the OP, but since they have experience and money, I am making an assumption they could be over 40. I am considering moving to Seattle as well and since I am over 50 and not a techie, I've been hesitating. My field is editorial work in publishing, worked in government/nonprofit administration in the past. I've pretty much given up on applying for anything from the East Coast, since I know these types of jobs can be filled locally.
it could always be age discrimination (but the OP isn't in that range); but likely it could also be companies wanting to pay less and if you have too much high level on your resume they may just take you out assuming you're not going to fit into their desired pay range
@Legacy Bear - what field, industry, and career level are you looking to get into? That'll largely determine whether or not you can get hired from out of state.
Been in the finance/banking side for about 7 years or so. Well my current title is a financial analyst and have always come in as a JR. I figured I might have to do the same as I try to get my foot in the door. I've been in the corporate side of bigger companies/banks and would actually prefer something smaller. Not sure how that'll work out, but I don't really care about chasing prestige and what not. I'm willing to accept any type of work (well with in reason) that won't get me all hell-bent haha. My concern and stress is more about situating myself in Seattle though.
I would prefer a more situated type of job which gives me time to actually enjoy and see the city. I want to find out if it would be feasible for me to commit myself there.
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