11-15-2006, 01:53 PM
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We are moving to Seattle area and going to choose the area based on 1) high school with strong math and science programs (IB includes humanities and does not go really far in math/science, I believe); 2) parks in the neighborhood; 3) commute to downtown; 4) chance to find younger than 40 yo 3-bedroom house with decent backyard below 550,000.
We are moving from the area with one of the best school systems and our son is in the HS specialized in math, science and computer science. So I get a little shaky when thinking about move. Should I be?
11-15-2006, 02:06 PM
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We are moving to Seattle area and going to choose the area based on 1) high school with strong math and science programs (IB includes humanities and does not go really far in math/science, I believe); 2) parks in the neighborhood; 3) commute to downtown; 4) chance to find younger than 40 yo 3-bedroom house with decent backyard below 550,000.
We are moving from the area with one of the best school systems and our son is in the HS specialized in math, science and computer science. So I get a little shaky when thinking about move. Should I be?
Hi,
It's going to be a tough decision. My wife & I had researched IB schools in Seattle before we left, and simply didn't find any within our reach. One school, Foss High in Tacoma, had a good IB program but when we toured the school and saw the gangbangers, we changed our minds on the spot. There were others in Kent and Everett (neither are great areas) and Olympia (too far away).
If you need to have an IB school, be near downtown Seattle and have a house less than 550K, I'm sorry to say I can't think of a place that meets those criteria. It's not good to be a bringer of good news, but this is just honest feedback. It would be worthwhile to listen to others who know the area. Maybe there is something I've missed.
I hope you can find something that meets your expectations.
11-15-2006, 02:27 PM
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Thank you for the info, FistFightingHairdresser!
11-15-2006, 02:59 PM
Location: Haddington, E. Lothian, Scotland
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Thank you for the info, FistFightingHairdresser!
Hi,
It would be cool to get you sorted. So let's start with work. Where do you *have* to work? Maybe that would help triangulate some schools.
Actually, Foss in Tacoma would be OK so long as your kids didn't have to live the the area around it. If the work location is flexible, you could live in Gig Harbor which is a *very* nice area, but also be within a manageable distance from Foss. But then again, Gig Harbor schools are excellent, but aren't IB. Is that an option? Stadium High in Tacoma also has a very high reputation, but isn't IB.
If you must live in Seattle proper, IB schools are probably too far to reach. But there are some good private schools. Seattle Academy of Arts or University Prep are absolutely top notch, but you will PAY for the privilege.
Public schools in Seattle were a disappointment for my wife & I. The public schools in our area (Ballard) were underwhelming, in spite of them supposedly being some of the best in the city. A girl getting shot & killed by a gang at our local HS didn't improve our outlook.
Our friends who had kids in other public schools didn't report anything worth being enthused about either. Maybe living in Redmond, Belleview or Kirkland is an option for you?
11-15-2006, 03:46 PM
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The work is in the heart of downtown of Seattle. However I am thinking about Issaquah, Bellevue, Bothell areas. On the web those schools sound great except science tests results. That is what bothers me. I am looking for vigorous science curriculum (physics, biology, chemistry) which is not just AP level classes. In our county some schools have variety of science programs with their own requirements for graduation in addition to regular HS graduation. I guess we are spoiled by opportunities we have here.
11-15-2006, 03:57 PM
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The work is in the heart of downtown of Seattle. However I am thinking about Issaquah, Bellevue, Bothell areas. On the web those schools sound great except science tests results. That is what bothers me. I am looking for vigorous science curriculum (physics, biology, chemistry) which is not just AP level classes. In our county some schools have variety of science programs with their own requirements for graduation in addition to regular HS graduation. I guess we are spoiled by opportunities we have here.
Sure, no problem. The East Side would be a good bet. The schools are good, but I can't say anything specific about the science curricula.
Where country are you moving from? Maybe I can give you a comparative view.
11-15-2006, 08:12 PM
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We are coming from Maryland, Montgomery county. I like it here very much. A lot to do and very accessible, and great schools.
11-25-2006, 07:02 AM
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Have you investigated Bainbridge Island? I was looking into Seattle area high schools a while back, and found it very highly rated at that time. You would have a ferry commute to work, but if you could walk from the Seattle ferry terminal to your office that would make it much more doable than having to put a car on the ferry (getting to ferry line early, etc a big drag). I think the actual commute might be sort of pleasant in that you could sit and have a coffee and plan your day whereas no such opportunity exists while on the freeways from the east side.
11-28-2006, 09:24 PM
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We are moving to Seattle area and going to choose the area based on 1) high school with strong math and science programs (IB includes humanities and does not go really far in math/science, I believe); 2) parks in the neighborhood; 3) commute to downtown; 4) chance to find younger than 40 yo 3-bedroom house with decent backyard below 550,000.
We are moving from the area with one of the best school systems and our son is in the HS specialized in math, science and computer science. So I get a little shaky when thinking about move. Should I be?
on-the-move,
Does your son attend the Science magnet program at Montgomery Blair?
I grew up in the DC metro area (Reston, VA) and have been in the Seattle for less than a year. I find that people in general are less focussed on science/math education at the high school level. I guess part of it is due to all sort of science agencies, government labs, and tech companies in the DC area.
As a previous poster said, I agreee that the best bets for public education are East of Seattle. If you are willing to spend for expensive real estate, Mercer Island is (I think) considered by the Seattle Times as the best public high school in the Seattle area. Mercer Island is roughly the same commute into downtown Seattle as it would take from Rockville/Bethesda to downtown DC by car. If you can handle that commute when you were in MD, then this would be similar. Other good general schools are Bellevue and Newport, both in Bellevue.
As far as I know, these schools don't offer anything beyond AP Calc BC in math, which might be the equivalent of what Blair students take in their sophomore (or even freshman) year. But I think they do offer tie-ups with Univ of Washington math/science classes for credit... so you may want to ask around about this possibility.
As impressive as they are locally in the region, I still believe that the DC metro area can spoil any parent who's highest priority is education. Even the best regular public schools in the DC metro area (Churchill, Langley, Wootton, Whitman, etc) are all, IMHO, better than anything in the Seattle-metro area, in terms of Math/Science education. If you are strictly looking for an equal for the science magnet programs at Montgomery Blair HS or Thomas Jefferson HS, you won't find it in the Seattle area.
If you are willing to pay for private school, many consider the best school to be Lakeside School. Bill Gates and Paul Allen are Lakeside's most famous alums. It is also considered among the elite west coast private schools. They don't have AP/IB course designations, but they seem to have the most rigorous and comprehensive math/science curriculums of any school I've seen in the area. Here's their math department website: http://www.lakesideschool.org/upperschool/departments/math/ (broken link).
Hope this helps.
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Bainbridge has second best schools in western washington
Do consider Bainbridge.Working in Seattle poses no problem. Car pools exist for many employers in Seattle who live on BI. They even get priority in gettiing on and off the ferries! Monthly rates for ferry riders make the cost not too horrid, plus, the busses are all free in downtown Seattle. Many people ride their bikes onto the ferry or motorcycles, and they get off first, also. The schools are very good here. Only expensive Mercer Island has better ones, and we go back and forthg with them on scores.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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