Moving to Seattle as a Non Liberal (Tacoma, Lakewood: buy, school)

[cmswazey]

Originally Posted by treuphax

this weekend in a conversation another bigoted seattle progressive assumed that blue-eyed blondes are probably racist.

The people here are nuts.

Their witch hunting for "racists, misogynists and homophobes" is mere projection of the hate and darkness in their own hearts.

this!!

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by treuphax

This weekend in a conversation another bigoted Seattle progressive assumed that blue-eyed blondes are probably racist.

The people here are nuts.

Their witch hunting for "racists, misogynists and homophobes" is mere projection of the hate and darkness in their own hearts.

Coming from a liberal with similar coloring this seems unlikely but outrage is invigorating! Seattle is a pretty white metro so...

[thatguy950]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Coming from a liberal with similar coloring this seems unlikely but outrage is invigorating! Seattle is a pretty white guilt metro so...

Fixed

[CrazyDonkey]

Originally Posted by treuphax

Their witch hunting for "racists, misogynists and homophobes" is mere projection of the hate and darkness in their own hearts.

So, are you saying that, like witches, "racists, misogynists and homophobes" don't actually exist?

[homesinseattle]

I don't witch hunt for racists, misogynists and homophobes, just know their BS language and innuendos and can detect them pretty fast. It detests me, I call it out, confront it. Witch hunt? Not really. I just speak out when offensive things like that come into my sphere. You should too, all of you.

[AADAD]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Sorry, but Seattle is mostly not a fan of birther Trump. What was said cannot be unsaid and ironically, he seems to have done as much or more than Hillary Clinton but his supporters make excuses because they are in so deep. Calling her names, Obama names, etc. doesn't make a persuasive argument but that doesn't stop Trump supporters. I cannot imagine why someone so right wing would choose Seattle when there are other choices. We have seen the pained complaints and some are even returning for another go round. By the way, I never stated my city is cherishing and kind. My city is misty and beautiful but rather standoffish to newcomers and that's the honest truth.

So liberal Seattle is unfriendly and distant?

[RotseCherut]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Liberals are certainly pro-capitalism and there are endless examples of that. Seattle is as liberal as it gets, Trump received fewer votes as a percentage in Seattle than San Francisco, but Seattle is absolutely capitalistic. Jeff Bezos donated $2.5M for gay marriage.
https://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...-sex-marriage/
Apple, Facebook, Google and Microsoft all joined opposition to Trump's travel ban.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...mmigration-ban

You have once again proven my point.. Jeff Bezos is pretty much a libertarian and supports libertarian causes. He has funded both Democrat and Republican politicians, most likely to show his bipartisanship as a business owner, rather than being an avid supporter of one party. But being libertarian, his fiscal views coincide much more with Republicans. Bezos is not a defender of wealth redistribution, bloated spending on endless social programs and is a staunch capitalist. I mean , DUH, he is like the ultimate capitalist. People like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are only acting liberal because they have so much money now that any liberal policies will never personally affect them and it is a good marketing scheme and gives them great PR.

Early Amazon investor Nick Hanauer has described Bezos as a libertarian. And Bezos has donated to the nonprofit organization that publishes Reason.com, the Web site of the libertarian magazine with the same name. He also put $100,000 toward the defeat of a 2010 measure that would have imposed an income tax on top earners in the Evergreen State.

Originally Posted by Seacove

The country is socialist in the way it addresses education, do Republicans want to close all the public schools?

With the way public schools are going these days, it wouldn't be a bad idea.. Seriously, a good number of public schools in the country are war zones and what type of real education do many kids get there anymore? I think Jeff Bezos agrees with his support of charter schools, which are more popular with Republicans.

Originally Posted by Seacove

But Seattle is undoubtedly corporate.

The irony of it all.. The evil corporate capitalist ruling over radically socialist leftist Seattle.. Idaho, the state you hate so much is actually more socialist (higher taxes) and less corporate than Washington.


You hate Trump and yet Trump supported gay marriage.. Ironic, isn't it? Even your beloved Hillary Clinton was against gay marriage and supported the Confederate flag until it became a requirement of the Democrat party to support gay marriage and be against the Confederate flag.. Why do so many liberals act like mindless sheep and just support whatever the PARTY demands of them, without looking retrospectively at all the issues of each candidate and party.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...arriage-231310

[CoffeeandNatureWalks]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

All the stories about being shut out of "liberal" political conversations at work are nonsense in my experience. Politics has never come up in any workplace I've been in, anywhere, including California. Why would it? At work, you're supposed to be working. Conversations generally are work-related. No one discusses politics, no one discusses religion. Most people are aware that it's not polite to raise those matters at work or in social situations, unless one is among friends, and already knows their leanings.

That's my experience. Honestly, I don't remember discussing politics with anyone in Seattle at all, including friends. There's so much more to life than politics, you know? YMMV, I guess.

This has not been my experience -- at all. Perhaps it's just being employed within the City itself. In fact, even management attempts to turn every issue into a political opinion. I used to identify STRONGLY with liberal opinion, without any one affiliation. Lately, I'm finding "liberals" are not so open-minded about much of anything. Many are demonstrating behavior that is scarier (IMO) than the "possible" Armageddon they are protesting.

The bright side: It's melted some of the Seattle Freeze. Daily, I have a number of "friendly" folks approaching me with a smile, greeting and invitation to "stand up to (name liberal cause here) and fight against . blah blah blah. . " as they arrange their clip board and ready a pen for my signature.

[Seacove]

Rotse, for someone that dramatically left for the red state of Idaho proclaiming they could no longer take liberal Seattle, to now claim Seattle is more conservative than Idaho is pretty funny. But the great part is that means no more complaints about liberal Seattle right?

[RotseCherut]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Rotse, for someone that dramatically left for the red state of Idaho proclaiming they could no longer take liberal Seattle, to now claim Seattle is more conservative than Idaho is pretty funny. But the great part is that means no more complaints about liberal Seattle right?

I claimed Washington is more conservative than Idaho, as a whole, not Seattle is more conservative than Idaho.. Please quote what I wrote properly. And, if you do study the political structure, laws, taxes of both states you will also see that what I say is correct. On a fiscal scale, Idaho is quite liberal, but on a social scale Idaho is conservative. Idaho has one of the highest tax rates in the country, with an 8% state income tax and 6% sales tax, even on food items. This is typical of most blue dog Democrat states. Washington on the other hand is quite a mix of Libertarian/Republican in its fiscal policies, although the California/East Coast transplants (calling themselves Seattle natives) are doing what they can to change the conservative policies that have made Washington state flourish throughout the decades.

Seattle is a very liberal city, but its liberalism is very shortsighted, as Washington and the economic muscle that fuels Seattle is due to the conservatism of Washington state and the giant corporate infrastructure that glues Seattle together. The loud, liberal leftist population in Seattle may have the loudest voice but they are not the rulers or dictators of all of Seattle's policies, especially with Washington being as much of a preemption state as it is.


Boise, itself, is more liberal than most cities in Washington state, including Tacoma, but obviously not many cities are more liberal than Seattle proper. The Eastside is liberal due to its large Asian population who tend to vote liberal, yet are ironically culturally and socially conservative as well.