James Street Homeless (Seattle: construction, taxes, live)

[AADAD]

So....I travel off the 5 down James Street. Numerous tents and growing more.frequent people crossing streets dark clothes in the dark. Yesterday the tents had increased to about 50 up and James and up Cherry St. Is this the norm....? First year here so I wondered what to expect.

[pikabike]

Tents protect them from the rain that you claim to love.

[bloom]

Originally Posted by AADAD

So....I travel off the 5 down James Street. Numerous tents and growing more.frequent people crossing streets dark clothes in the dark. Yesterday the tents had increased to about 50 up and James and up Cherry St. Is this the norm....? First year here so I wondered what to expect.

Yes. Which city do you think is handling this situation worse?

[AADAD]

Originally Posted by pikabike

Tents protect them from the rain that you claim to love.

"you're kind of a jerk aren't you?"

Gene Hackman to Will Smith in Enemy of the State

[HuskyDawg]

You can expect tents, RV's, trash, feces, and needles as the city council is encouraging this environment, rather than using the millions we spend to actually help homeless, or enforce laws. They refuse to acknowledge that it's a mix of the genuinely down on their luck, mentally ill, and drug addicted, and a criminal element that all need different services/solutions.

[AADAD]

Originally Posted by HuskyDawg

You can expect tents, RV's, trash, feces, and needles as the city council is encouraging this environment, rather than using the millions we spend to actually help homeless, or enforce laws. They refuse to acknowledge that it's a mix of the genuinely down on their luck, mentally ill, and drug addicted, and a criminal element that all need different services/solutions.

It is kinda alarming how each week it increases.

[bergun]

Originally Posted by pikabike

Tents protect them from the rain that you claim to love.

A very true overall statement about the people who now live/work in the city. They don't want the police to enforce the laws, but are quick to complain in that now famous Seattle "passive-aggressive" manner that doesn't help anybody. That touchy feely stuff doesn't work. Until the voters in Seattle return back from La La Land, it's only going to get worse. It's not going to get any better or self correct on its own, no matter how hard you wish it would.

The truth be told, you're going to have to support... AND vote/demand that the city counsel to finally do their jobs and adopt tougher laws to get Seattle back on line with the quality of live issues. AND support the police when they're ordered by the mayor and counsel members to enforce the laws THEY voted on. Basically, for them to be a woman or man and take responsibiltiy for their actions and not blame the police if something goes sideways.

If you're not willing to stand up and vote for common sense issues to return and again be the norm, don't complain and accept the "new" Seattle where the inmates run the asylum.

Btw, how are those new soda or the gun/ammo taxes working??

The people have been allowing all this craziness to happen with their silence... If you want real change, you're going to have to stand up and demand it by voting... IMHO and what do I know, I'm only a Blue Collar worker.

Originally Posted by AADAD

"you're kind of a jerk aren't you?"

Gene Hackman to Will Smith in Enemy of the State

"Wow."

Bergun to anybody who cares

[AADAD]

Originally Posted by bergun

A very true overall statement about the people who now live/work in the city. They don't want the police to enforce the laws, but are quick to complain in that now famous Seattle "passive-aggressive" manner that doesn't help anybody. That touchy feely stuff doesn't work. Until the voters in Seattle return back from La La Land, it's only going to get worse. It's not going to get any better or self correct on its own, no matter how hard you wish it would.

The truth be told, you're going to have to support... AND vote/demand that the city counsel to finally do their jobs and adopt tougher laws to get Seattle back on line with the quality of live issues. AND support the police when they're ordered by the mayor and counsel members to enforce the laws THEY voted on. Basically, for them to be a woman or man and take responsibiltiy for their actions and not blame the police if something goes sideways.

If you're not willing to stand up and vote for common sense issues to return and again be the norm, don't complain and accept the "new" Seattle where the inmates run the asylum.

Btw, how are those new soda or the gun/ammo taxes working??

The people have been allowing all this craziness to happen with their silence... If you want real change, you're going to have to stand up and demand it by voting... IMHO and what do I know, I'm only a Blue Collar worker.




"Wow."

Bergun to anybody who cares

People are way to sensitive in Seattle imho to enforce laws or common sense out of respect for the other guy who may disagree. No eggs getting cracked in this town....but that's ok.... Just my .02.

[Blondebaerde]

Originally Posted by HuskyDawg

You can expect tents, RV's, trash, feces, and needles as the city council is encouraging this environment, rather than using the millions we spend to actually help homeless, or enforce laws. They refuse to acknowledge that it's a mix of the genuinely down on their luck, mentally ill, and drug addicted, and a criminal element that all need different services/solutions.

Right, and IMO all who have been issued more than (1, 2, maybe 3) vagrancy citations with photos, prints, DNA or retina scans, need to be rounded up for centralized processing somewhere c. mid-state, with plenty of land and military tents/barracks. Send out dragnets of a dozen police with fifty construction men and two dozers to sweep up and burn garbarge and diseased filth as they go. Do this in waves, over weeks.

At a processing center, wouldn't think it would take a small platoon of no more than fifty specialists to conduct intake interviews with everyone swept up in the dragnet within some proscribed timeline that is law-abiding. Guessing under 48 hours from time of detention, however the law reads in terms of max time a person can be held? Destination tbd:

- Bums, vagrants, "work shy": criminal sentence, work farm to produce fruit and vegetables.

- Criminals: Gulag, sentence varying.

- Mentally ill: involuntary commitment for assessment, re-process every (six months or other proscribed interval).

This isn't too hard, people. Modify the above to conform better to laws, or pass new laws that don't need to be super-Draconian, only just for removing thousands of bums, vagrants, thieves, crooks, and insane people from the streets!

They either do this, or society will solve it for them, probably convulsively and traumatically like they did with Trump election. Who the hell saw that coming, other than thousands and millions of teed-off and disenfranchised voters being crowded out my MS Media and freaks from Hollywood? And the justice of a disenfranchised electorate will be swift and terrifying indeed to all those with more-cozy hearts for "the homeless."

My $.02 and opinion. I heard pretty much the opposite of the above as the *actual* proposal from some Seattle City Councilman earlier today on 770 KTTH news, however. So, we shall see indeed.

[bloom]

Originally Posted by AADAD

People are way to sensitive in Seattle imho to enforce laws or common sense out of respect for the other guy who may disagree. No eggs getting cracked in this town....but that's ok.... Just my .02.

How about your friends in SD - are they way too (grammar) sensitive iyho to enforce laws or common sense out of respect for the other guy who may disagree ?