The Puget Sound is Depressing.. My Take.. Leaving In 2 Months (Seattle: real estate, rentals)

[dtuba]

Do you promise, to actually leave this time?

[franklin42]

Zzzzzzzz. FINALLY. Good luck out there. See you back here in a few months...

[NW4me]

Originally Posted by franklin42

Zzzzzzzz. FINALLY. Good luck out there. See you back here in a few months...

Perhaps he'll tell CD all that's wrong with his new location...

[87112]

I think you guys made you point. Jeez, no wonder he think NW people are often jerks. I like Rotse, speaks his mind knowing the lemmings are going to pound.

[franklin42]

Originally Posted by NW4me

Perhaps he'll tell CD all that's wrong with his new location...

Oh he will!

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by dtuba

Do you promise, to actually leave this time?

Rotse has promised us that when he moves out of the area, he will not return to this sub-forum to post. Rotse, we're going to hold you to that.

Bon voyage. I hope you're happier in Portland. We can get news updates of you, by reading the Portland forum.

[barq]

There is much insight in this post (and many responses that only affirm it).

[flyingsaucermom]

Originally Posted by 87112

I think you guys made you point. Jeez, no wonder he think NW people are often jerks. I like Rotse, speaks his mind knowing the lemmings are going to pound.

I don't disagree with you. But not unlike a song replayed over and over and over again, it gets old. Especially when the solution is simple and self-evident.

Rotse, good luck... I hope your next home is more fulfilling.

[ctr88]

Originally Posted by RotseCherut

After 6 years of living on and off in the Puget Sound (minus 1 year in between living in Idaho) I am finally packing up and saying goodbye to this region for good. I'm not going to go into politics (too deeply), the economy, jobs or any other type of issue, but rather just discuss my feelings of people in the entire region spanning from Bellingham to Olympia.

This is my take on the persona of people in the Puget Sound and I know this post will be unpopular.

Cold weather, cold people, overcast and endless rain.. The weather alone is not the only reason for the persona, but I think the weather, coupled with the culture and northern latitude does affect people's mental and physical health. It is no wonder why people here are so depressed and spend their lives drinking in a dark corner of a bar or coffeeshop and only have a few friends from their job or who they grew up with since kids. If you do not work with the person from your job, the people will feel much too uncomfortable to commit to any friendship with you. Most people don't even have any friends here, they just find some woman/man to hitch up with and strive for the sacred monogamous Disney relationship that always falls miserably short. If someone is like me and works long hours from home, you will have no friends living in the Puget Sound. SOcial activities are just meant to be activities and people attend them to get away from their spouses or workmates for entertainment, but, by no means, as a venue for finding long-lasting friendships (like you know, over 1 month).

I think I can say the Puget Sound is the most depressed and unfriendly region of the USA. In addition to people being very snobby, pretentious, insanely liberal with social justice warriors who hate everyone who doesn't think exactly as they do, there just isn't much friendliness or kindness among humans. The element of what many call the "Freeze" or lack of friendliness and kindness among people actually has nothing to do with political boundaries, religion, ethnicity or anything, but it just seems most people here in the Puget Sound care nothing about anyone but themselves. People are always depressed, anti-social and your life revolves either by working all day and watching TV all night or enjoying the outdoors for the few months of the year you can do it.

Another problem is that the weather is so bad and people are so anti-social and unfriendly, that most people try to find someone to get married to very young. People here get married in their teens or early 20s and then divorced later on. It seems like every person is in a rush to be married, hide in their house and never leave, yet people around here don't seem to do a great job of learning how to be kind to each other. Most marriages here end up in awful divorces and many of the older friends (over 30) I made here are usually paying hellish child support and alimony fees, while they quickly look for the next broken marriage they will get into. Everyone here is so anti-social, that marriage is like their ticket to not having to interact with people. It sucks when you are single and every 20 something girl has multiple kids already. The only exception to the young marriage epidemic is within the city of Seattle, itself and maybe a few inner suburbs, like Kirkland. However, being the Puget Sound has a huge surplus of males, because of the IT industry, military complex and huge blue collar industries that still exist, of course the gender ratios are horribly skewed. But, if you are a single guy living anywhere else in the Puget Sound than Seattle or Kirkland, be prepared to be alone, as the only women you can hit on are married soccer moms. Another issue you will have is having married, older and/or overweight women trying to pick up on you. Women think they are the only ones who have creepy people picking up on them, Haaa!

I'm looking forward to leaving this wretched place and never coming back again to live here. I've never been so depressed in my life as living in the Puget Sound. The South Puget Sound is very gritty especially. People here are about as anti-social as they come and the place is filled with alcoholics, drug addicts and mentally ill people.

I'm just counting down the days to be out of this place. However, I am sure I will come back one day to hike all the various mountains and nature in the Puget Sound. The best thing that can happen to the Puget Sound is that all the people just freaking disappear and let it return to its natural beautiful state. I miss the Puget Sound and even the state of Oregon that existed in the 90s, when there was more community, less people chasing after money, less beta males worshiping women, people didn't spend all day hiding behind their smartphone or laptop and were out and about socializing and being part of a unique and thriving culture that existed in the Pacific Northwest in the 90s. People use to smile back then, especially the women who seem to be as cold as ice these days. But, even most men I meet here are pretty cold, depressed and introverted. You can just see some light missing in the eyes of all the people. This place has a spiritual darkness unlike any other place I have ever been on this planet.

In Seattle, people cannot just have a friendly conversation, but, if you challenge someone's thoughts they will want you to be killed and suffer. Everything is life and death and people freak out on you over the most mundane issues. It is not that Portland doesn't have these issues as well now, but not to the degree of Seattle, where everyone thinks they are the next savior of the universe with what ever cause they support. Many Seattlites will hate your guts if you support capitalism, yet cry like babies when many of the amenities that capitalism has given them are compromised. The golden hypocrisy of the city of Seattle is another stomach turning element that keeps me from spending too much time in this city. But, that is Seattle's curse, yet other places in the Sound may not be so pretentious and radically liberal, but still have that element of depression and the anti-social mindset.

I will be moving to Portland for one year for business reasons. Portland is definitely a friendlier and more upbeat city. Seattle is way too serious, rigid, pretentious and cutthroat. Portland is way more laid back, easy going and even if it is liberal progressive, there is not the same degree of hatred you feel in Seattle for having opposing views.

However, I think in the next couple years I will be leaving the Northwest for good and let all the transplants devour the place, the locals all jump off their bridges as they get so depressed and hold in all their emotions they go insane. And, yes, the entire Puget Sound will eventually implode as the mismanagement of its government and poorly implemented infrastructure collapses. Maybe, it will return to its more humble, modest and enchanting persona I remember back in the 90s.

Oh yes, I actually do want to apologize to those I offended with this post. It has been quite a lonely and stressful 6 years in this place. The entire Northwest seems to have been populated with the most anti-social elements. Perhaps, being so far away from the rest of the country, that is the element of people who wish to live here. I find my soul is more communal, outgoing, social, open-minded. I want to meet different kinds of people, have fun, be social, not have the thought-police control my mind and attack me with passive aggressiveness anytime I go against the status quo. I guess I grew up as a hippie, but feel more like a hippie country boy who grew up (or older) in this small city named Portland and developed a unique culture and mindset of my own that feels so broken and out of place living in this area. I'm somewhat hippie, a wannabe cowboy and have some hillbilly mixed in me (still have all my teeth though ) . I know I would probably fit in well in many other places in the country and world, but definitely not here. I also was granted the honor to become African chief of the Ewe people, as I was to be enstooled in a village in Ghana when I stayed there. Even Africa, felt like home to me compared to the Puget Sound. I've been around the world, but never have I felt more alone, depressed and out of place than in the Puget Sound.

People can keep saying how open-minded and accepting it is here, but I disagree. Oh yes, disagreeing with people here is a daunting feat. You will be chastised, hated, beguiled and humiliated for challenging people's thoughts. The land of open-mindedness and progressiveness is, in my opinion, anything but that. More like judgemental, callous, self-serving and polarizing. The entire Northwest is like this to a degree, but the Puget Sound is the worst case of it.

I wish I could explain it.. But, this is not a friendly or happy place.

Anyway, this is somewhat like my goodbye to the Puget Sound and this forum, as I won't be posting on the Seattle forum here much after I leave in next couple months.

Good post RotseCherut with many great points. I will miss you on the board representing a refreshing libertarian point of view. Come back on the Seattle CD board when you land somewhere and let us know where you end up. I'll be leaving this area soon as well.

[homelessinseattle]

I felt much the same way forwards the end.
Get out of there for your healths sake.