“Shelter in place” for Coronavirus coming to Seattle area tomorrow-Wednesday? (Kirkland: house, schools)

[rjshae]

Originally Posted by kavm

Unfortunately not the coronavirus - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51735367 The myth of sun killing this virus is called out towards the end of the article.

Walking is still good for many other reasons...

Well I'm not talking about the Sun wiping it from your body. I mean the UV killing viruses on potentially contaminated surfaces. If you touch a surface that somebody else has previously touched, the risk should be somewhat lower after UV exposure.

See for example: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2143QP

Besides, they're finding out things about this virus that they didn't get quite right, so the information is subject to change.

[JOinGA]

Originally Posted by bergun

Yeah, like MSNBC is a better source of factual news?

Sorry, this isn't a Left verse Right issue and this virus doesn't care if you love or hate Trump.

IMHO, I agree with most of what L. Ingraham said, especially about manufacturing most or at least, far more medicines here in the US. Yes, some of the things that needs to be done goes against many liberal views, but seriously, what is more important... Right now, it's to get through this crisis.


Sorry, but opening the borders and allow everybody to illegally enter the country or claim asylum, without screen, and possibly flooding our already limited hospital beds and medical supplies isn't the answer. If you think that this is the answer, you need to wake up to the real world.

Using common sense, we have to screen people who are coming into the country... Watch, especially atfter this crisis, many other countries will be screen people BEFORE allowing them to enter.

By being politically correct and thinking/acting on emotions, many... MANY Americans are now out of work and our economy is tanking and far worst... People are dying because of this virus.

Yeah, let's keep playing politics and let's see how much that sheet helps the American people during this crisis.

It was made a left versus right issue when, with the notable exception of Tucker Carlson, Fox News was misleading its viewers into complacency, which caused a lag in voluntary compliance with guidelines. They are now busy trying to rewrite history, but the fact is that these people may have cost lives. The survey results are clear: https://www.vox.com/2020/3/15/211805...ublicans-trump.

[pnwguy2]

Until this becomes official, I don't think one should speculate. It just raises the panic meter. There is no need to panic.

If it comes to be, then deal with it. And after studying this, it allows one to leave their home to get critical supplies. It also allows one to go out for a walk or run as long as there is no contact with others. In essence, it is hard to enforce and mostly would be a volunteer type situation. But we are not there at this time.

[homesinseattle]

Originally Posted by JOinGA

It was made a left versus right issue when, with the notable exception of Tucker Carlson, Fox News was misleading its viewers into complacency, which caused a lag in voluntary compliance with guidelines. They are now busy trying to rewrite history, but the fact is that these people may have cost lives. The survey results are clear: https://www.vox.com/2020/3/15/211805...ublicans-trump.

Hard to hide from what you said on video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HvE9hCZ-jaU

[Sockeye66]

The entire state of California is now mandated to stay at home.

[leastprime]

Lets bend the curve.
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by pnwguy2

Until this becomes official, I don't think one should speculate. It just raises the panic meter. There is no need to panic.

If it comes to be, then deal with it. And after studying this, it allows one to leave their home to get critical supplies. It also allows one to go out for a walk or run as long as there is no contact with others. In essence, it is hard to enforce and mostly would be a volunteer type situation. But we are not there at this time.

What do you mean, "until this becomes official"? Hasn't it been official in WA for some time, now? The Gov. instituted the "shelter in place" order state-wide last week sometime. Maybe he didn't call it that, but ordering businesses to close, restaurants to stop seating people and offer take-out only, mandating that people work from home if their work allows, and so on, is a de facto shelter-in-place order. This is what shelter-in-place looks like, and quacks like.

[flyingsaucermom]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

What do you mean, "until this becomes official"? Hasn't it been official in WA for some time, now? The Gov. instituted the "shelter in place" order state-wide last week sometime. Maybe he didn't call it that, but ordering businesses to close, restaurants to stop seating people and offer take-out only, mandating that people work from home if their work allows, and so on, is a de facto shelter-in-place order. This is what shelter-in-place looks like, and quacks like.

No, Ruth. It's not the same. Many businesses are/or have been still open, like a locally-owned game store and a sporting goods store. The framing shop and make-up stores had been open (I think Ulta is now closed or planning to close). These are stores just in my neighborhood.

My son has been going to the playing fields each day. It's been a lifeline for him and the rest of the neighborhood athletes and gym rats. They train together, in small groups, or alone. Under a shelter-in-place order they wouldn't be permitted to use the fields, at least not nearly in the same capacity they are using it now. I think at most a few at a time could get away with coming out at 7am and claiming a full half of a pitch to themselves. Technically, though, nobody would be able to use the fields. Walking, running or hiking.. those are the only three outdoor permissible actions I've read in the prior SFO shelter-in-place order.

Sheltering-in-place is no different for three members of my family, but I for the sake of my 13 year old I really, really hope it doesn't happen. He's popular, wildly socially, full of male hormones and needs to be let outside with another teammate or two.

[MechAndy]

The wifey and I are sheltering in place.
We only go out at the minimum if at all.
I am not working.
She is.
Our cars have a couple of small ISO alcohol spray bottles that we use when shopping or getting fuel.
I still do road trips to the wilderness but bring food and have no contact with people.
I think this is still cool.
Your thoughts?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by flyingsaucermom

No, Ruth. It's not the same. Many businesses are/or have been still open, like a locally-owned game store and a sporting goods store. The framing shop and make-up stores had been open (I think Ulta is now closed or planning to close). These are stores just in my neighborhood.

My son has been going to the playing fields each day. It's been a lifeline for him and the rest of the neighborhood athletes and gym rats. They train together, in small groups, or alone. Under a shelter-in-place order they wouldn't be permitted to use the fields, at least not nearly in the same capacity they are using it now. I think at most a few at a time could get away with coming out at 7am and claiming a full half of a pitch to themselves. Technically, though, nobody would be able to use the fields. Walking, running or hiking.. those are the only three outdoor permissible actions I've read in the prior SFO shelter-in-place order.

Sheltering-in-place is no different for three members of my family, but I for the sake of my 13 year old I really, really hope it doesn't happen. He's popular, wildly socially, full of male hormones and needs to be let outside with another teammate or two.

That's interesting; thanks for explaining that. I guess I've been misinformed some extent. It's great, that small businesses have been able to carry on, but OTOH, if you look at the article linked a few posts up, it sounds like the area is at much higher risk than is currently believed. The number of true cases is being wildly underestimated all over the US, but the article goes into some detail in discussing the WA State situation. So, after reading that article, I'm thinking it really is important to stay home as much as possible.

According to shelter-in-place orders elsewhere, FYI, it's allowed to go out to get exercise, as long as one doesn't do so in groups. So conceivably, your teen could go out with one friend, to play ball, or whatever. Even in SF/CA-at-large, one can do that, if one observes the social-distancing guidelines (minimum 6 feet of distance from another individual).

BTW, even young people can fall ill to the virus, and it can become life-threatening. It's a random kind of a thing. One can't assume that one is immune to it, or to its worse effects, by virtue of not being in a high-risk category. Just thought I'd mention that. A C-D member in his early 30's posted a blow-by-blow account of his experience, from onset of symptoms, to life hanging by a thread in the ICU, to final recovery and release, earlier this week. Terrifying! The illness suffocates you to death. That account, along with the article leastprime posted above, were real wake-up calls for me.

Best wishes for yourself and your family.