UW’s Dr. Vin Gupta on coronavirus, the vaccine and our path forward

[flyingsaucermom]

Originally Posted by homesinseattle

Oh people, I know that you don’t want this to be real (I sure don’t either) but it is. I’ve lost two perfectly healthy relatives.

“14 coronavirus myths busted by science”. Article here: [url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-myths.html[/url]

How old were your relatives at the time?

[usernametaken]

Wow, I do not recall you even once being sad or down this year, and you post almost daily. Hope I am as optimistic and positive as you if any of my friends or family ever dies from a virus.

Originally Posted by homesinseattle

Oh people, I know that you don’t want this to be real (I sure don’t either) but it is. I’ve lost two perfectly healthy relatives.

“14 coronavirus myths busted by science”. Article here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.liv...rus-myths.html

[sll3454]

Originally Posted by homesinseattle

Oh people, I know that you don’t want this to be real (I sure don’t either) but it is. I’ve lost two perfectly healthy relatives.

“14 coronavirus myths busted by science”. Article here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.liv...rus-myths.html

There's certainly a difference between
"It's not real" and "The count is not being made correctly."

[sll3454]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

If you are going to claim overcounting, what is killing all those people showing up as excess deaths?

If every state removed 200 deaths from its count that would only reduce the US total by 10,000.

This is not a "claim" of overcounting. The Freedom Foundation went through the records and found these cases, plus more. There is documentation of overcounting, not a claim.


I doubt that the over-count would be the same for every state. Some states may be doing a better job. Some states may be doing worse. Many states have a higher population and more deaths, and if they overcount by the same percent, it would be a much higher number of people.

[homesinseattle]

Originally Posted by flyingsaucermom

How old were your relatives at the time?

Cousins. One late 50s the other mid 60s. Both in Florida and both in good health at the time. Oh, also both mask deniers.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by sll3454

This is not a "claim" of overcounting. The Freedom Foundation went through the records and found these cases, plus more. There is documentation of overcounting, not a claim.

I doubt that the over-count would be the same for every state. Some states may be doing a better job. Some states may be doing worse. Many states have a higher population and more deaths, and if they overcount by the same percent, it would be a much higher number of people.

What is causing all those excess deaths that just so happen to occur with the onset of the coronavirus epidemic?

The states are auditing their counts, and the screwy certificates like those for accidents and homicides are being corrected. Trying to minimize the death toll helps no one. CDC wants the count to be as correct as possible, not as high as possible.

You also have to realize that there are COVID-19 deaths that will not be counted, especially from early in the epidemic when testing was abysmal.

[rhymeswithcovid]

Originally Posted by homesinseattle

Article link here: https://crosscut.com/inside-crosscut...r-path-forward

“Dr. Vin Gupta of the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation rarely has opportunities to wax at length about public health, despite his frequent appearance as a COVID-19 expert on cable news shows.

So when asked to share his broader perspectives on the pandemic and what this crisis means for him personally, as well as American life and politics in general, the critical care pulmonologist and major in the U.S. Air Force Reserve Medical Corps opened up like a religious man in a confessional.
Gupta goes out of his way to enhance trust in medicine — going so far as to tape his first of two COVID vaccinations live on NBC’s Today Show Wednesday morning. But why it’s so important for him to do so doesn’t always come up”.

It's too bad the President Elect and his running mate were spreading vaccine fear during the election.

[Sockeye66]

Originally Posted by rhymeswithcovid

It's too bad the President Elect and his running mate were spreading vaccine fear during the election.

What alternate channel were you watching?

[dav51lin]

how about people follow the
simple advice and keep each other safe

[ShellNic]

Originally Posted by rhymeswithcovid

It's too bad the President Elect and his running mate were spreading vaccine fear during the election.

Can you please provide source? I did not hear or see this message from the President elect during the election - the only "fear" about the vaccine is coming from folks who are unsure about the efficacy of the vaccines. I simply haven't heard what you're referring to...can you explain what you mean?