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Old 05-26-2021, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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And have you noticed all the discussion of variants has stopped too? The Brazilian.... the UK... the South African...

This is why I can't necessarily fault the OP for his view/action. The way the media and government is working this is... in the least... questionable...

And, of course, now all eyes are on China. Something we were told was very, very unlikely...

Nonetheless, we did get the vaccine...
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:41 PM
 
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One thing I still don't get how Washington has the highest infection rates at the moment. 60% of adults with at least one dose and still far worse than even Texas that hasn't had any restrictions for a few months.
WA state PCR tests are still revving up the cycle thresholds. I’ve read/heard as high as 42 cycles. The tests make something out of nothing.
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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One thing I still don't get how Washington has the highest infection rates at the moment. 60% of adults with at least one dose and still far worse than even Texas that hasn't had any restrictions for a few months.
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I know! I was seriously sitting here for, like, 20 minutes comparing our rates with the rest of the states. Did a google news search for "WA covid rate increase" and still got nothing. Not in the news at all... yet...

Last Friday we got an email from the school district that if the rates were below 200/100k in King County for 5 consecutive school days that by agreement with the teacher's union the district MUST offer in-person learning 4 days a week... that clock started Friday and even though our state rates topped at 1636 today... (highest since May 14th) the kids are welcomed to go into the schools tomorrow...

Wonder what the schools will do if the rates jump back up over 200. In fact, I wonder if they were actually over 200 for King County today I got the email around noon so they didn't have measurements for today...
Unvaccinated people are driving the cases now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...inated-people/

"Washington’s case rate among unvaccinated people is as high as it was in late January, near the peak of Covid infections."

"The adjusted rates in several states show the pandemic is spreading as fast among the unvaccinated as it did during the winter surge. Maine, Colorado, Michigan and Washington state all have covid-19 case spikes among the unvaccinated, with adjusted rates about double the adjusted national rate."
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Unvaccinated people are driving the cases now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...inated-people/

"Washington’s case rate among unvaccinated people is as high as it was in late January, near the peak of Covid infections."

"The adjusted rates in several states show the pandemic is spreading as fast among the unvaccinated as it did during the winter surge. Maine, Colorado, Michigan and Washington state all have covid-19 case spikes among the unvaccinated, with adjusted rates about double the adjusted national rate."
How come Texas, California and many more are doing far better? They don't have higher percentage of their population vaccinated. Texas has even had packed stadiums since early April. Things like that make no sense and need to be questioned.

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Old 05-26-2021, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Lone Star State to Peach State
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And have you noticed all the discussion of variants has stopped too? The Brazilian.... the UK... the South African...

This is why I can't necessarily fault the OP for his view/action. The way the media and government is working this is... in the least... questionable...

And, of course, now all eyes are on China. Something we were told was very, very unlikely...

Nonetheless, we did get the vaccine...


Yes, all eyes are on China now with demands and hopes from our experts to be transparent.
When in the middle of this crap, eyes were diverted and experts were silent about possible China lab involvement.

I just have to sit back and watch the media and govt experts change the narrative every few weeks.
One thing I'm grateful for lately is the disappearance of all things Q related.
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:56 PM
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Where do you get your data, Botev? I'm genuinely curious. You consistently point to Texas as some kind of 'success', but do you realize that Texas has had ten times the number of deaths from COVID than WA State? As in, 55,000 >5,500. The population of Texas is not ten times that of Washington. Texas ranks number 3 in COVID deaths among the states. Yeehaw?

Look, the test positivity rate in Texas is higher than in Washington. Do you understand what that means? It means Texas is under-testing, under-identifying, or under-reporting cases – or all three. Washington's case rate might be higher than Texas's on paper at the moment, but both Texas's current hospitalization rate and death rate are still higher than Washington's.

You can 'hide' positive tests but it's much harder to hide hospitalizations and deaths.
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Where do you get your data, Botev? I'm genuinely curious. You consistently point to Texas as some kind of 'success', but do you realize that Texas has had ten times the number of deaths from COVID than WA State? As in, 55,000 >5,500. The population of Texas is not ten times that of Washington. Texas ranks number 3 in COVID deaths among the states. Yeehaw?

Look, the test positivity rate in Texas is higher than in Washington. Do you understand what that means? It means Texas is under-testing, under-identifying, or under-reporting cases – or all three. Washington's case rate might be higher than Texas's on paper at the moment, but both Texas's current hospitalization and death rates are still higher than Washington's.

You can 'hide' positive tests but it's much harder to hide hospitalizations and deaths.
I am talking about current infection rate and Texas has had fewer cases in the recent weeks with 4 times as many people. Current cases are showing where things are going. Hospitalization and deaths always lag behind. WA is not just worse than Texas, it's currently the worst in the US.
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:04 PM
fnh
 
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I am talking about current infection rate and Texas has had fewer cases in the recent weeks with 4 times as many people.
Please define your use of "infection rate" and explain to me how you think it differs from case rate here.
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Please define your use of "infection rate" and explain to me how you think it differs from case rate here.
Cases per day/week. It's how Inslee used to decide restrictions. And WA is now the worst in the US.
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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How come Texas, California and many more are doing far better? They don't have more percent of their population vaccinated. Texas has even had packed stadiums since early April. Things like that make no sense and need to be questioned.
The link in my post that you quoted lets you look at each state. California and Texas still are having infections in unvaccinated people. There is a box to choose the state you wish to look at.

Marin County, CA:

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/...effectiveness/

"Approximately 93% of Marin COVID-19 cases since March 1 have been among people who are unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated. Seven percent of cases are so called “breakthrough cases,” diagnosed more than two weeks after completing the vaccination series. Breakthrough cases, when they occur, are less likely to lead to hospitalization and death."

First death in over a month in that county was an unvaccinated man over age 65. Ninety eight percent of that age group in Marin have had at least one dose of vaccine.
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