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Old 06-04-2009, 04:18 PM
 
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BTW, Laurelhurst is fine...a bit over-priced, but very intelectual, (I mean intellectual!)...
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About 51% of all primary breadwinners in Seattle are college educated. That's the highest percentage of any large metropolitan area in the United States. Therefore, there's bound to be intellectuals everywhere, either of the soapbox variety or the cool ones.

I'd highly recommend a trip out to here. Iowa sounds depressing from your post in that thread.
This question came up after we came to visit the area..... And yes, Iowa is depressing. Just check the weather report for a while and you'll know why!
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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This question came up after we came to visit the area..... And yes, Iowa is depressing. Just check the weather report for a while and you'll know why!
Don't want to go too off topic, but you are aware of the overcast Western WA winters, right?

To stay on topic, maybe the overcast weather adds to people in the area staying in with a book more than places with sunnier weather do.

By the way, the higher average education statistic is attributed to the influx of tech workers. I believe because the major employers in the Seattle area are white-collar industries where the average employee has at least a bachelor's degree.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:23 PM
 
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A Bachelor's degree might get you a sweet barista job in Seattle.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:38 PM
 
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Don't want to go too off topic, but you are aware of the overcast Western WA winters, right?

To stay on topic, maybe the overcast weather adds to people in the area staying in with a book more than places with sunnier weather do.

By the way, the higher average education statistic is attributed to the influx of tech workers. I believe because the major employers in the Seattle area are white-collar industries where the average employee has at least a bachelor's degree.
Not entirely true. Seattle has had a higher than average education statistic since at least 1970, and that was long before the tech worker influx.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:20 PM
 
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Not entirely true. Seattle has had a higher than average education statistic since at least 1970, and that was long before the tech worker influx.
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Here's a good Seattle Times article that talks about how Seattle's percentage of residents over 25 with a Bachelor's degree or higher increased by 11% between 2000 and 2004; mainly attributable to the influx of white collar tech workers.
The Seattle Times: Local News: Seattle ranks as nation's best-educated big city

1970 is an interesting point, Seattle was ranked fairly high in people with 4 or more years of college for its time at about 15% (DC, San Francisco, Dallas, San Diego, Columbus and some other of the 30 cities in the survey were higher) -- maybe because this was prior to the "Boeing Bust" -- being a boom and bust economy town will probably mean a fluctuation in the overall education levels of the resident populace.
Here's a very dated, apparently scanned set of stats from the 1970 U.S. Census. Takes some use of the scroll bar, but interesting when you actually look at the data rather than just going with the perception.
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal...accno=ED064447

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Old 06-04-2009, 06:33 PM
 
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Here's a good Seattle Times article that talks about how Seattle's percentage of residents over 25 with a Bachelor's degree or higher increased by 11% between 2000 and 2004; mainly attributable to the influx of white collar tech workers.
The Seattle Times: Local News: Seattle ranks as nation's best-educated big city

1970 is an interesting point, because this was prior to the "Boeing Bust" -- being a boom and bust economy town will probably mean a fluctuation in the overall education levels of the resident populace.
I am not disputing that there was not an influx of those with college degrees, my point is that long before the tech influx Seattle had population with a higher than average education.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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I am not disputing that there was not an influx of those with college degrees, my point is that long before the tech influx Seattle had population with a higher than average education.
Okay, sure, in 1970, at 15.3% of the population reporting 4 or more years of college, Seattle was slightly higher than the 1970 national average of 13.6% -- somewhere in the middle of the pack. Of course, some cities with abysmal education levels at the time really brought down that national average.

Above average, sure, but it wasn't positioned for the coveted "best educated city award" until after the influx of people with degrees from other places (including, perhaps, a fair amount of people from California, but who's to say, I'll bet the census doesn't track that info that closely).
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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Okay, sure, in 1970, at 15.3% of the population reporting 4 or more years of college, Seattle was slightly higher than the 1970 national average of 13.6% -- somewhere in the middle of the pack. Of course, some cities with abysmal education levels at the time really brought down that national average.
I know it is terrible painful for you to say much of anything positive about Seattle or its native born citizens, however believe it or not we have valued education for a very, very long time.
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:35 PM
 
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I know it is terrible painful for you to say much of anything positive about Seattle or its native born citizens, however believe it or not we have valued education for a very, very long time.

This made me laugh (sincerely), and I see your point. I have absolutely nothing against Seattleites or anyone from the PNW -- but admittedly I can get a little overzealous (plus I think I have some kind of OCD when it comes to statistics, etc, no idea why) in trying to make a point.

And I do actually believe that education has been valued in Seattle for quite some time -- my original point was that its ascension to the top of the educational food chain over the past 5 years was due in no small part to the influx of educated people moving to the area -- in addition to the native population's academic achievements, of course.
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